I wonder how effective an EMP would be at "sterilising" a vehicle of such trackers. Especially if the vehicle in question has no electronics and uses a mechanically-injected diesel engine.
Certainly an interesting thought if you have a very old diesel. I would wonder if all the metal would hamper an EMP pulse that you could safely generate at home. Diesel's going back 20+ years still have ECUs as well, not to mention the rest of the vehicle's electronics could be at risk. So it would have to be a properly old or unique vehicle.
Detection of hidden cellular GPS vehicle trackers
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That would require plugging into the wiring. At that point you no longer need a battery and can just use the car's power.
I'd be wary of draining the battery while the car is off. You don't want to prevent the car from starting
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#103Better hope your stalker isn't friends with a law enforcement officer either: https://deflock.me/
Simply putting a fake plate would bypass that. Truckers usually have a pulley system on their plates to avoid tolls, so maybe more normal drivers will implement such a system or find a way to create something that messes up their camera OCR.
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Do you know if they also monitor bluetooth devices? Like all cars have one and if should be detectable. Also, most recent cars have DCM which are always sending data, including position to the car maker.
TPMS is also common and detectable.
What possible reason is there for them not to just be plugged into the car's power and computer? I'm sure there is a reason, but it never once occurred to me that that would be the case. What a strange system.
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#105These efforts are commendable, but by and large I think our location data is just a commodity by now and it is best not to assume you can reliably hide your location permanently and reliably without spending a lot of effort. Not that I'd find that idea pleasant, I just think the ship has sailed.
That ship is more than capable of being put back in a bottle with enough political will. We just need to come together enough to get the message heard.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
TPMS is also common and detectable.
Wait, why on earth are these wireless? Apparently they're battery powered too?? What possible reason is there for them not to just be plugged into the car's power and computer? I'm sure there is a reason, but it never once occurred to me that that would be the case. What a strange system.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
TPMS is also common and detectable.
Wait, why on earth are these wireless? Apparently they're battery powered too?? What possible reason is there for them not to just be plugged into the car's power and computer? I'm sure there is a reason, but it never once occurred to me that that would be the case. What a strange system.
The part where they are a sensor in a wheel and therefore have constant turning. Are you interested in engineering a system that can cheaply and reliably provide power and signal through a constantly and one direction turning joint? That's not a trivial problem, and most solutions are things like contact brushes on a turning bearing surface which would instantly foul in a tire and brake dust filled environment or a sealed puck of mercury channels that nobody wants to install on every single car in the world.
There are two ways tire pressure monitoring is done. The normal way is to piggy back on the tone wheels that ABS uses to monitor wheel rotation speed, as a flat tire has less circumference and therefore rotates faster. This has the down side that you need to "calibrate" it and people suck at doing that, it can't tell you raw pressure values at all, and for a while it wasn't normal for cars to have 4 independent ABS tone wheels so you couldn't always pinpoint which tire was flat. This method has no consumable parts, has no batteries, and sends no radio signals so is not trackable.
The other method is putting a battery powered pressure sensor and radio in the valve stem of each wheel. This method is retrofittable, will always give you raw pressure values and doesn't need any calibration (but does need pairing). However, the parts are more expensive, they are somewhat consumable and make tire changes more expensive and time consuming, and are constantly sending trackable signals that can be automatically dragnet surveilled. Don't buy this method.
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Sure, but the stalking issue is a subset of the generic data privacy issue or do you believe you can hide from a stalker if everyone else under the sun knows you location. It might be too difficult to use location data brokers for stalking[1] but the whole economy around them makes the app ecosystem weak against location privacy and makes it easy to use a manipulated app for stalking. No special devices needed and ce…
I’m not sure what point you’re really trying to make here. This is a thread about detection methods of an extremely invasive (and rare) method of stalking, which yes is a subset of a data privacy issue. The fact that data brokers can get a lot of location and other data about you is irrelevant to the discussion. > or do you believe you can hide from a stalker if everyone else under the sun knows you location. I’m not…
Re: Detection of hidden cellular GPS vehicle trackers
#109If you're going to try and track this stuff for real, keep in mind most devices like this use motion sensors to go into low-power mode when stationary and only transmit on the move.
We talking MEMS/inertia detection, vibration detection or auto-geo-fencing?
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Bluetooth doesn’t have the signal strength beyond 20ft. Even then it requires a handshake pairing to send data as every device shares spectrum.
I can almost assure you NYC subway does this.