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Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

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Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

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Dollywood is great, but unfortunately the article gradually shifts into bashing Tennessee and America for not using enough passenger rail. That train left the station a long time ago. Car ownership is very high, sprawl is very high. We do not have urban cores with the same density or concentration of business districts as European or Asian cities. Most of the time buses make more sense for public transportation in Am…

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Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

#22
post #7

The comparison of the Dollywood Express ridership to statewide railways is pretty unfair. The Dollywood Express is not really transportation, it's an amusement park ride, more comparable to the Disney Railway than Amtrack, and I'm pretty sure more people ride the Disney Railway than the Dollywood Express. The economics of amusement park rides and actual transportation systems are radically different. (Actually, the D…

The author both points that out, and links to his essay "How Disney Became One of the Largest Transit Agencies in North America' (What Does a Theme Park Operating the 10th Largest Transit Agency in the U.S. Say About Us?)" at https://thetransitguy.substack.com/p/how-disney-became-one-o...

Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

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> Dollywood Express, the heritage steam train that operates within Dollywood, has a higher rail ridership than 27 states. I don't now if it's useful, but this way of putting quanties in context, would be neat to see about all kinds of things. Like how they seem to always do rare things compared to your chance of getting hit by lightning.

I believe the point of the whole article is that the public transportation is broken if a train in a theme park has more users than regular trains in many states.

Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

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“ I love Disney and I love Dolly Parton, but it says something deeply broken about our national priorities when their theme park trains outclass public infrastructure in billion-dollar economies. Be serious.”

Europe has lots of train infrastructure because it was very poor after WW2, and its people could afford nothing but train fare.

America has lots of car infrastructure because it was very rich after WS2, and its people have the freedom to choose personal transportation.

Over 90% of American households have at least one car. It’s not because American government doesn’t invest in public transit. It’s because Americans, even poor Americans, overwhelmingly choose personal transportation.

Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

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post #4

> The trains run all day during park hours and can burn through up to four tons of coal per day and 4000 gallons of water. Oof. That's a lot of coal. ~ 1000 tons of coal/year or the CO2 equivalent of 10 million miles of driving. Edit: corrected math

4 * 365 ~= 1500 tons

Just 98,500 tons off

Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

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post #7

The comparison of the Dollywood Express ridership to statewide railways is pretty unfair. The Dollywood Express is not really transportation, it's an amusement park ride, more comparable to the Disney Railway than Amtrack, and I'm pretty sure more people ride the Disney Railway than the Dollywood Express. The economics of amusement park rides and actual transportation systems are radically different. (Actually, the D…

I think it doesn’t matter. The point is that more people drive daily with these trains than most people in other states their respected train lines. It’s just shows that the US has nearly no train infrastructure when a theme park train has more ridership than most states. Granted this is by design because the US over prioritized the highway system over a train transit system. There is a new video from Daniel Steiner who usually explains the origin of cities via maps did a take on the US highway system

https://youtu.be/Sr2F4OZSETE?si=fh628Gb3RzhpLpYo

Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

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Dollywood is great, but unfortunately the article gradually shifts into bashing Tennessee and America for not using enough passenger rail. That train left the station a long time ago. Car ownership is very high, sprawl is very high. We do not have urban cores with the same density or concentration of business districts as European or Asian cities. Most of the time buses make more sense for public transportation in Am…

horse ownership is very high,

Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

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“ I love Disney and I love Dolly Parton, but it says something deeply broken about our national priorities when their theme park trains outclass public infrastructure in billion-dollar economies. Be serious.” Europe has lots of train infrastructure because it was very poor after WW2, and its people could afford nothing but train fare. America has lots of car infrastructure because it was very rich after WS2, and its…

and we are severely worse off because of it

Re: Dolly Parton's Dollywood Express

#30

Dollywood is great, but unfortunately the article gradually shifts into bashing Tennessee and America for not using enough passenger rail. That train left the station a long time ago. Car ownership is very high, sprawl is very high. We do not have urban cores with the same density or concentration of business districts as European or Asian cities. Most of the time buses make more sense for public transportation in Am…

I mean the passenger train from Lebanon, TN to Nashville, TN is quite busy. I rode it over a decade ago and it was quite used and my partner rides it now and it is much the same. If it still ran at night like it did back then, I'd probably take it into downtown (and go downtown more often) for events. I don't believe the train left the station a long time ago, we just simply shifted it off the tracks.
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