Just rename Gnome to systemd-desktop and be done with it.
Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd
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Re: Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd
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#24What is Gnomes market share like these days? It used to be the de facto FOSS desktop in the GNOME 2.x days but things changed with the release of Gnome 3 and I’ve not really noticed Gnome ever bounce back since.
who does even compete with Gnome ? it is the de facto default desktop in almost all notable distros. it just works, though it is far less customizable compared to KDE, it is far more stable -still only compared to KDE..
KDE 6 is quite stable in my experience and faster/more efficient than Gnome too.
Re: Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd
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Not parent, but I'd recommend you get a lay of the land and not trust rando's ramblings.
We are not lawyers. I don't care what their "parent" company is legally. In practice, IBM influences and affects every single decision of these projects/companies. So yes, It is their parent company. Just look at what they were doing to X11. Holding it's development back just to monopolize wayland more.
How were they holding X11 back?
No one wanted to support it, not just Red Hat.
Re: Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
who does even compete with Gnome ? it is the de facto default desktop in almost all notable distros. it just works, though it is far less customizable compared to KDE, it is far more stable -still only compared to KDE..
> it is far more stable -still only compared to KDE Citation needed ;) I haven't seen any 'instability' in KDE since I switched from GNOME, and performance/snappiness of KDE is actually better.
Performance/stability on KDE used to be a lot worse IMO. Your opinion on KDE depends on when you last checked.
Re: Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd
#27What is Gnomes market share like these days? It used to be the de facto FOSS desktop in the GNOME 2.x days but things changed with the release of Gnome 3 and I’ve not really noticed Gnome ever bounce back since.
who does even compete with Gnome ? it is the de facto default desktop in almost all notable distros. it just works, though it is far less customizable compared to KDE, it is far more stable -still only compared to KDE..
> it just works
For some definition of works, like a folder with 300 videos loading for 15 seconds and image viewer unable to open 150MB images.
I prefer how Gnome works compared to KDE, but I can't get past the ridiculous performance issues.
Re: Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd
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They do have endless resources. They are an IBM company. If people choose to work for IBM without getting payed, that's kind of their problem.
gnome is an IBM company?
IBM bought Redhat, Redhat hires the devs for GNOME and hosts its infrastructure.
IBM and Redhat where also the main founders of GNOME.
They don't need to legally own GNOME. When most of the people working on systemD and GNOME are IBM employees, IBM makes the decisions. And GNOME is an IBM company.
https://wiki.gnome.org/RedHat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation
Re: Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd
#29For all worried check out xfce. It works, is light, is customizable, has gtk responsiveness (I find Qt click and drag and drop downs odd) Only downside maybe is no Wayland support yet.
with 4.20, there is experimental wayland support for almost all xfce4 applications. I've used it and didn't even face a single crash.
So, it's not far away.
Re: Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
We are not lawyers. I don't care what their "parent" company is legally. In practice, IBM influences and affects every single decision of these projects/companies. So yes, It is their parent company. Just look at what they were doing to X11. Holding it's development back just to monopolize wayland more.
How were they holding X11 back? No one wanted to support it, not just Red Hat.
Read the news. That's why the maintainers forked it and are starting improvements on their own project.
https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2025/06/06/msg032...