OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80% • Hacker News Board

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by refulgentis » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:01 AM UTC

MattDaEskimo wrote: post #211

tedsanders wrote: post #159

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Nope, not what we’re doing. o3 is still o3 (no nerfing) and o3-pro is new and better than o3. If we were lying about this, it would be really easy to catch us - just run evals. (I work at OpenAI.)

What's with the dropped benchmark performance compared to the original o3 release? It was disappointing to not see o4-mini on it as well

What dropped benchmark performance?

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by theappsecguy » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:01 AM UTC

TZubiri wrote: post #228

asadotzler wrote: post #216

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You trust their PR statements?

It's not a PR statement, it's a change in price. Literally putting money where the mouth is.

Or they are trying to gobble up market share because Anthropic has been much better than OpenAI

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by nateburke » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:06 AM UTC

34679 wrote: post #226

I'd like to offer a cautionary tale that involves my experience after seeing this post. First, I tried enabling o3 via OpenRouter since I have credits with them already. I was met with the following: "OpenAI requires bringing your own API key to use o3 over the API. Set up here: https://openrouter.ai/settings/integrations " So I decided I would buy some API credits with my OpenAI account. I ponied up $20 and started…

I don't recall Persona being in the mix last year when I signed up. Interesting development.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by Davidzheng » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:07 AM UTC

TZubiri wrote: post #228

asadotzler wrote: post #216

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You trust their PR statements?

It's not a PR statement, it's a change in price. Literally putting money where the mouth is.

o3 probably used to have a HUGE profit margin on inference, so I'd say it's unclear how much optimo was done;

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by Davidzheng » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:08 AM UTC

blueblisters wrote: post #75

This is the best model out there, priced level or lesser than Claude and Gemini They’re not letting the competition breathe

Gemini is close (if not better) so it just makes sense no? o3-pro might be ahead of pack tho

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by conradev » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:11 AM UTC

34679 wrote: post #226

I'd like to offer a cautionary tale that involves my experience after seeing this post. First, I tried enabling o3 via OpenRouter since I have credits with them already. I was met with the following: "OpenAI requires bringing your own API key to use o3 over the API. Set up here: https://openrouter.ai/settings/integrations " So I decided I would buy some API credits with my OpenAI account. I ponied up $20 and started…

I was more excited by the process, like, there exists a model out there so powerful it requires KYC

which, after using it, fair! It found a zero day

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by resource_waste » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:15 AM UTC

lvl155 wrote: post #42

Google has been catching up. Funny how fast this space is evolving. Just a few months ago, it was all about DeepSeek.

Deepseek was exciting because you could download their model. They are seemingly 3rd place and have been since Gemini 2.5.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:22 AM UTC

behnamoh wrote: post #10

how do we know it's not a quantized version of o3? what's stopping these firms from announcing the full model to perform well on the benchmarks and then gradually quantizing it (first at Q8 so no one notices, then Q6, then Q4, ...). I have a suspicion that's how they were able to get gpt-4-turbo so fast. In practice, I found it inferior to the original GPT-4 but the company probably benchmaxxed the hell out of the tu…

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Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by stevev » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:23 AM UTC

It was only a matter of time considering Deepseek R1’s recent release. OpenAI’s competitor is an open-source product that offers similar quality at a tenth of the cost. Now they’re just trying to prevent customers from leaving.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by xmprt » Wed, Jun 11, 2025, 12:24 AM UTC

catlifeonmars wrote: post #224

HugoDias wrote: post #123

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This document explains the process very well. It’s a good read: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/prompt-caching

> OpenAI routes API requests to servers that recently processed the same prompt, My mind immediately goes to rowhammer for some reason. At the very least this opens up the possibility of some targeted denial of service

Later they mention that they have some kind of rate limiting because if over ~15 requests are being processed per minute, the request will be sent to a different server. I guess you could deny cache usage but I'm not sure what isolation they have between different callers so maybe even that won't work.