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There should be a national media company. Instead we have national media companies with no democratic oversight and labor abuse.
You mean like NPR?
Chatbots are replacing Google's search, devastating traffic for some publishers
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The one way forward for them would have been to maintain their quality, but they decided to cash in on their monopoly instead. Peak short-termis.
Seems to my untrained eyes like Google's AI search is actually the best on the market, no? Seems like a lot of HN users have trained themselves not to type queries into the search prompt anymore and then complain about the quality of a product they don't use.
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Seems to my untrained eyes like Google's AI search is actually the best on the market, no? Seems like a lot of HN users have trained themselves not to type queries into the search prompt anymore and then complain about the quality of a product they don't use.
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#94I now instruct chatgpt to search the web for me and I read the result, since it works. I also read the news directly from various newspapers that I subscribe to to make sure they actually get money.
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But how? I usually have never heard of some publication and literally want to read one article and never visit the site again. I don’t want to whip out my credit card, fill out a form, have a subscription on the books that I have to cancel, just so I can read that one article. I want the web equivalent of an ezPass transponder.
Apple News+ is one way. Another is what 404media does. You pay $10 a month for no ads and extra stuff. But yes, I know what you want and sadly there’s nobody doing it yet.
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I think that’s a good question. If they did their jobs properly, acting as the 4th estate, then I’d be much more supportive. However the last action I can remember that fulfilled checks and counterbalances was the publication of the Snowden files. After that the press died and it’s never recovered. Journalists are too scared and media companies neutered, and no longer have what it takes to call out the executive.
I mean Fox News seemed to be pretty darn good at calling out Biden and made it their personal mission to hate everything Obama touched. Why aren't people comfortable calling out Trump? Because he's made it clear he will and has retaliated against anyone who does. We've implicitly relied on the "courtesy" of the executive to just sit there and take it for the good of the country and public discussion. But now that tim…
I feel like all the new I ever see is calling out Trump. I don't think it's doing anything though.
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Apple News+ is one way. Another is what 404media does. You pay $10 a month for no ads and extra stuff. But yes, I know what you want and sadly there’s nobody doing it yet.
Oh its been done dozens of times, it just always fails.
What is an article worth to read?
Re: Chatbots are replacing Google's search, devastating traffic for some publishers
#98Take it to the next level, integrate the chatbot into a browser extension side panel. Let people navigate to websites that contain the information. This will work. It will allow the chatbot to provide up to the minute data and information from the source. It will allow the user to maintain context -- like a popup dialog allows the user to maintain visual context. And, it will incentivize content creators to curate an…
This is already a thing with Gemini in Chrome[0]. The Browser Company’s new browser, Dia[1], is supposedly another similar product [0] = https://gemini.google/overview/gemini-in-chrome/?hl=en [1] = https://www.diabrowser.com/
I went with experimenting with stock trading as a demo because people need huge incentive and value to make the critical jump to install an app. There is potential for niche curated business intelligence in trading or real estate, for example, where not only providing the chat bot but also time series data embeddings ect.
I'm a little sad because I'm late to this party.
Nevertheless, there needs to incentive also for people to continue to publish the data, ideas, and information so the chatbots are going to have help the content creators help them curate and provide the data by getting users to navigate to the webpages.
I remember reading Google's Search Engine Optimization guide back in 2009 when I built a news publishing website for an industry newpaper. The tone was here is how to optimize your website for google crawlers to help us help you get traffic to your website. Google is nothing without people creating.
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Do you trust an ai run by a shady company but not an attributable human editor.
Yes, the AI is trained on a vast quantity of data therefore it is less likely to be manipulated vs a single editor that may have ulterior motives. Therefore it's much harder to manipulate. A corporation which represents many shareholders' interest has its own reputation on the line, which would be seriously damaged if they were caught doing anything like you suggest. But this can only be understood within the context…
Gemini was caught stuffing prompts with "custom" keywords on certain requests, so there is still an editor between you and the AI.