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Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

goodburb wrote: post #35
throw_m239339 wrote: post #12

I remember my first android device, it had like 512MO of RAM (and storage), and it was blazing fast, it could be used as a WIFI repeater too (which is why I still have it, although it 2.5G...). Fast forward 13 year later or so, if your android device doesn't have at least 8gig of RAM and 64gigs of storage, then it's pretty much useless given how bloated the OS (and the apps) have become... So basically, Android low e…

$400 for a 3GB RAM is a "budget" phone? I paid $200 for a Moto G85 5G with 12GB RAM, 256GB storage last year. Alternatives in the same range: CMF Phone 1/2 and OnePlus Nord CE4 Lite 5G

The new(er) mid range chipsets indeed are so so nice now. Pretty/fully modern process nodes, battery efficient, still very respectable cores.

Really glad to see we've finally landed at a place where finding an old refurbished flagship is not the only logical choice, where the mid-range has a lot going on for it.

Just wish we had some mainline kernel support, could put Debian on these things! I've had a OnePlus 6T (2018) that supposedly does pretty ok that I've been meaning to try Mobian on, and it felt like for a bit Snapdragons were getting better and better Linux support. But that motion seems to have really tapered off in the last ~2 years?

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by argsnd »

microtonal wrote: post #39
aaomidi wrote: post #37

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I decided to install the beta to get a more informed opinion. I think the UI looks better when you’re holding it vs seeing it in the pictures. Control center, however, sucks.

I installed the iOS beta and thought it was as bad, if not worse than the WWDC demos. In a lot of cases, text becomes outright unreadable. Control Center looks like a mess with all the transparency. Like the grandparent I'm much more excited by Material Design 3 Expressive.

There's some instances of text illegibility that seems to be caused by buggy contrast detection and I think they'll probably fix that pretty easily since this is only the first beta. I think the readability concerns are really overblown.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by legitster »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #52
butlike wrote: post #49

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The issue is this reaction never sticks. Everyone's up in arms, but would you really want to go back to Android KitKat or iOS 2? Probably not for more than novelty, right?

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More and more features are getting added, so the UI has to get reorganized to accomodate for them. A lot of the changes for Android 16 are to accommodate wearables and folding phones and etc while keeping the controls more consistent between them.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by argsnd »

mrweasel wrote: post #4

The notification feature looks nice. I've pretty much exclusively used iOS, but honestly notifications is a weak point for iOS, in my opinion. I frequently have the 1 notification on my home screen, but once unlocked notifications are pretty much impossible to find again.

I agree that Android notifications are broadly better than iOS but the live activities feature was a good idea and I’m quite glad that’s been added to Android now

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

legitster wrote: post #64
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #52

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More and more features are getting added, so the UI has to get reorganized to accomodate for them. A lot of the changes for Android 16 are to accommodate wearables and folding phones and etc while keeping the controls more consistent between them.

Cars have also gained new features, but the steering wheel, shifter, pedals, mirrors are still in the same places since >50 years. You don't need to get a new license and re-learn how to drive every time a new model comes out because they moved the steering wheel on the ceiling to install a 32 inch LCD screen.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by layer8 »

butlike wrote: post #49
demosthanos wrote: post #17

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This knee-jerk reaction is correct more often than not (see the terrible iOS redesign announced earlier), but in this case it seems like it might be incorrect? I looked through the highlights linked here and the full "What's New" page [0] and am pleasantly surprised to see a few new features but no major overhauls of existing ones. [0] https://www.android.com/16

The issue is this reaction never sticks. Everyone's up in arms, but would you really want to go back to Android KitKat or iOS 2? Probably not for more than novelty, right?

I would really want to go back to something like the look of iOS 1-6, with clearly discernible UI controls vs. content and labels. Not the real-world-mimicry skeuomorphism, but the look of the standard UI controls.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by lupire »

hadlock wrote: post #31
voidfunc wrote: post #9

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UI engineers need to justify their existence.

I genuinely think this is the case, and why products don't have a LTS interface, even though they ought to. Sign me right up for the 10 year LTS interface. I can't recall any features in gmail that were added that I actually use besides labels, which was an early launch feature. But it's been redesigned about 9 times in the last 20 years, each time with increasing white space and/or a slightly different font.

LTS interface is expensive for minimal benefit.
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