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> they fully deserve to be tracked Absolutely not. The law is still the law. The fact that Meta is able to break the law via technical means doesn’t mean victims deserve to be victimized. Just because someone is able to pick your lock at night doesn’t mean you deserve to be burglarized.
Get a better lock. If you don't care enough to not get lock picked, whose fault is it? The bar to avoid this form of tracking is not high at all. It's trivial for anyone who is willing to put some serious efforts in defending their privacy
People: "Oh there is a poisonous substance in the water. Many people harmed" Your answer: "Yeah, why don't you have a degree in water safety, in the first place plebs? I take samples every week."
GDPR doesn't work like your imaginary all-expert world. Facebook should and hopefully be fined to nonexistence.
Very impressive but not surprising coming from Meta. They have an history of doing this kind of things. Back in the early 2010s, they found a way to spy on HTTPS traffic on the iOS App Store to monitor which apps were getting popular. That's what allowed them to know WhatsApp and Instagram were good acquisition targets. At this point, I think the race for Zuckerberg is, can Meta survive long enough for the next platf…
Companies have been trying to make AR/VR the next platform shift but I'm not super convinced that people actually want or desire this outside of a few niche games. To me it feels like it has about as much staying power as 3D glasses in movies.
What's funny is that the engineers who implemented this are probably one of us here on HN. I don't think Zuck implemented this himself
My prediction, facebook gets fined something like ~12 million euros, eu bureaucrats shake their hands, facebook finds a different way to do the same thing. Definitely not even close to 32B
The EU doesn’t play around in this realm. 1.2 billion fine for an earlier incident: https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2023/12-billion-euro-fi...
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1.2B is less than 1% of Meta's revenue in FY2024. Maximum fines for infractions like these should exist on a sliding scale, as some percentage of prior revenue.
Something that you can sensibly express as a fraction of the revenue of Meta is significant though. It must be low enough that Meta never seriously considers to pull out of Europe.
This story got kicked out of front page quite suddenly, not sure how/why. Lots of points and comments.
Yeah, would be interested to know why exactly EDIT: Ok probably because it basically is a repost. I just haven't seen it 6 days ago.
I have seen that if a company is called out by name, in an inflammatory manner, the posts tend to drop out quickly. Sometimes, they come back.
Conspiracy theorists say that only happens with YC-backed companies, but that may be selection bias. I have seen stories that call out a number of companies, disappear quickly.
It's hard to say if that's OK or not. I think some of these stories are really nothing more than "hit pieces," but some of them are really on the money.
Very impressive but not surprising coming from Meta. They have an history of doing this kind of things. Back in the early 2010s, they found a way to spy on HTTPS traffic on the iOS App Store to monitor which apps were getting popular. That's what allowed them to know WhatsApp and Instagram were good acquisition targets. At this point, I think the race for Zuckerberg is, can Meta survive long enough for the next platf…
Companies have been trying to make AR/VR the next platform shift but I'm not super convinced that people actually want or desire this outside of a few niche games. To me it feels like it has about as much staying power as 3D glasses in movies.
As far as replacing your smartphone with AR glasses that remains to be seen
Sounds like you're affected if you have either Facebook or Instagram app installed on an Android phone, you're signed into your account, and you don't have anything set up to block tracking pixels and the like (though that last part I'm not as sure of). Getting through VPNs and incognito mode are the most egregious parts of this offense, though. I think some people are under the impression that's a way to act like yo…
> I think some people are under the impression that's a way to act like you're in total privacy... but it's not. It should be for the average person. VPN and private browsing should be enough for what most people use it for. I don’t think it’s fair to expect people to think that the browser is secretly communicating with apps on their phone, tying all behavior to their identity.
If it was possible for this to happen in the past, we have reason to believe that the technical capability to link behavior with identity still exists. What’s “unfair” about informing others about the limitations and risks of using a device online?