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Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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krobertson wrote: post #28
nilsbunger wrote: post #5

I'm a bit annoyed, I just paid $50 to upgrade to the Lion version last year, plus $50 for Fusion 3 upgrade the year before that, and now I have to pay again? My single Fusion license has cost me $150 over the last 3 years! Thanks a lot VMware!

I just bought Fusion 4 two months ago. Was using Fusion 3 for a long time just fine... got a new retina mac and had a few issues with it, so got 4 and it mostly fixed them and I was content. Now 5 comes out, seemingly has better retina support, and I'd have to shell out $50 again. No thanks. Each Fusion release is less and less compelling for the most part. Fusion 4 was "built for Lion", yet I used Fusion 3 on Lion e…

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Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by adestefan »

mgkimsal wrote: post #23

just bought 4 last month (used virtualbox for a lot of stuff, but had some proprietary vmware machines that were a real pain to try to run in vbox). $49 for purchase of vmware fusion 4. Fine. But now... I can upgrade to fusion 5 for $49... or just buy fusion 5 for... $49. Annoying. Yes, it's all in my head, but an upgrade price the same as a 'regular' price leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

If you bought after July 25, then the upgrade is free.

https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2012/07/buy-vmware-fusio...

Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by pinko »

lflux wrote: post #17
nilsbunger wrote: post #5

I'm a bit annoyed, I just paid $50 to upgrade to the Lion version last year, plus $50 for Fusion 3 upgrade the year before that, and now I have to pay again? My single Fusion license has cost me $150 over the last 3 years! Thanks a lot VMware!

You're in for a surprise if you ever look at their server products. In my environment the VMware licenses cost more than the hardware they run on.

I've said this before, but my experience with VMWare is that they do a very good job estimating the TCO of N physical servers and then they charge you such that it's ~90% of that cost to virtualize them. I.e., VMWare is usually a better deal, but just barely. Drives me insane.

Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by yehanyin »

nilsbunger wrote: post #5

I'm a bit annoyed, I just paid $50 to upgrade to the Lion version last year, plus $50 for Fusion 3 upgrade the year before that, and now I have to pay again? My single Fusion license has cost me $150 over the last 3 years! Thanks a lot VMware!

You're not alone. I feel bad about the release. It's ok that VMware release 5. But the problem is when you have version 4.1 , why you directly release 5 instead of 4.2? The Fusion 3 is release after Fusion 2.0.6 and I paid the upgrade fee. And then Fusion 4 is out after Fusion 3.1 and I paid the upgrade fee too. Thanks a lot VMware!

BTW, it only costs $29 to upgrade to Lion and $19 to upgrade to Mountain Lion.

Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by mgkimsal »

adestefan wrote: post #32
mgkimsal wrote: post #23

just bought 4 last month (used virtualbox for a lot of stuff, but had some proprietary vmware machines that were a real pain to try to run in vbox). $49 for purchase of vmware fusion 4. Fine. But now... I can upgrade to fusion 5 for $49... or just buy fusion 5 for... $49. Annoying. Yes, it's all in my head, but an upgrade price the same as a 'regular' price leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

If you bought after July 25, then the upgrade is free. https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2012/07/buy-vmware-fusio...

dbl checked - purchased june 18. :(

Would still have liked to see a discount price for upgraders, vs full price.

Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by kalininalex »

xutopia wrote: post #27
nilsbunger wrote: post #5

I'm a bit annoyed, I just paid $50 to upgrade to the Lion version last year, plus $50 for Fusion 3 upgrade the year before that, and now I have to pay again? My single Fusion license has cost me $150 over the last 3 years! Thanks a lot VMware!

I don't understand why more people don't use Virtualbox. It's free and pretty much equivalent.

I'd speculate that's because at the end of the day, for the many people on this board $50 is probably an inconsequential amount given the benefit provided (time saving, ease of use, etc) and the expense profile. After all, someone above just mentioned upgrading Fusion after purchasing MB Retina. That's what, $3k right there? Look at $50 as part of an upgrade.

On the other hand, if some people _just_ bought Fusion 4 it indeed is very annoying to pay $50 again for Fusion 5. VMware should have a free upgrade program for recent purchases of 4.

Personally, after using Fusion for 4 years I switched to Parallels. With Fusion, even when Windows is idle Fusion would use up to 20% CPU (on a 4-core), sometimes triggering fans. Parallels seems less CPU hungry and runs a bit faster (though this is subjective, try it first). It also has interesting features, such as, suspending of Bootcamp installations and the ability to use all attached displays when in full screen mode. I don't think Fusion 4 supported any of those; not sure about 5. And Parallels has a $29 license right now for those switching from VMware, so it was a good deal as well.

Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by StacyC »

evilduck wrote: post #10
nilsbunger wrote: post #5

I'm a bit annoyed, I just paid $50 to upgrade to the Lion version last year, plus $50 for Fusion 3 upgrade the year before that, and now I have to pay again? My single Fusion license has cost me $150 over the last 3 years! Thanks a lot VMware!

My Fusion4 install still works fine on Mountain Lion. Unless one of the new features is sufficiently compelling for you, I don't see why you have to upgrade.

Agree. Fusion 4 with Windows 7 runs really well for me under Mountain Lion.

Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by ioquatix »

Is it just me or is the VMware Store completely broken? I click on any of the Buy links and I just get redirected in a circle back to the front page of the store!?

I'm in New Zealand BTW. Perhaps they have some problems with non-US IP addresses...?

Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by justin66 »

xutopia wrote: post #27
nilsbunger wrote: post #5

I'm a bit annoyed, I just paid $50 to upgrade to the Lion version last year, plus $50 for Fusion 3 upgrade the year before that, and now I have to pay again? My single Fusion license has cost me $150 over the last 3 years! Thanks a lot VMware!

I don't understand why more people don't use Virtualbox. It's free and pretty much equivalent.

I found it to be buggy. In fact, Virtualbox for me had the effect of being an advertisement for VMWare.

I would love, love, love to have a free and open source option here but it's not like a web browser or something where I can live with the occasional crash or glitch.

Re: VMware launches Fusion 5

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Post by cstuder »

xutopia wrote: post #27
nilsbunger wrote: post #5

I'm a bit annoyed, I just paid $50 to upgrade to the Lion version last year, plus $50 for Fusion 3 upgrade the year before that, and now I have to pay again? My single Fusion license has cost me $150 over the last 3 years! Thanks a lot VMware!

I don't understand why more people don't use Virtualbox. It's free and pretty much equivalent.

I bought Fusion because of one feature: The ability to boot my Bootcamp partition into a virtual machine. (For heavy Visual Studio useage [and gaming] I dualboot into Bootcamp, for lighter Windows use I launch the virtualized machine without shutting down Mac OS X. Two levels of performance, one installation.)
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