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Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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I guess LLM and AI are forbidden words in Apple language. They do their utmost to avoid these words.

They took the clever (in my opinion) decision to rebrand "AI" as "Apple Intelligence", presumably partly in order to avoid the infinite tired "it's not really AI" takes that have surrounded that acronym for decades.

It's about as cringe as that Chinese guy with the funny-shaped head, who said a few years ago that AI for him means "alibaba intelligence".

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's impossible to have "native" support for Linux containers on macOS, since the technology inherently relies on Linux kernel features. So I'm guessing this is Apple rolling out their own Linux virtualization layer (same as WSL). Probably still an improvement over the current mess, but if they just support LXC and not Docker then most devs will still need to install Docker Desktop like they do today.

The screenshot in TFA pretty clearly shows docker-like workflows pulling images, showing tags and digests and running what looks to be the official Docker library version of Postgres.

Every container system is "docker-like". Some (like Podman) even have a drop-in replacement for the Docker CLI. Ultimately there are always subtle differences which make swapping between Docker Podman LXC or whatever else impossible without introducing messy bugs in your workflow, so you need to pick one and stick to it.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Is there a beta we can install to try out these models yet?

This press release says it will be available “starting today” through developer program https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/06/apple-supercharges-it...

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Okay, the AI stuff is cool, but that "Containerization framework" mention is kinda huge, right? I mean, native Linux container support on Mac could be a game-changer for my whole workflow, maybe even making Docker less of a headache.

It's impossible to have "native" support for Linux containers on macOS, since the technology inherently relies on Linux kernel features. So I'm guessing this is Apple rolling out their own Linux virtualization layer (same as WSL). Probably still an improvement over the current mess, but if they just support LXC and not Docker then most devs will still need to install Docker Desktop like they do today.

Apple has had a native hypervisor for some time now. This is probably a baked in clone of something like https://mac.getutm.app/ which provides the stuff on top of the hypervisor.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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> This year, App Intents gains support for visual intelligence. This enables apps to provide visual search results within the visual intelligence experience, allowing users to go directly into the app from those results. How about starting with reliably, deterministically, and instantly (say installed apps when searching by a prefix of their name ? As a second criterion, I would like to find files by substrings of th…

“How about starting with reliably, deterministically, and instantly (say searching by a prefix of their name? As a second criterion, I would like to find files by substrings of their name”

Even I can, and have, build search functionality like this. Deterministically. No LLMs or “AI” needed. In fact for satisfying the above criteria this kind of implementation is still far more reliable.

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