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I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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Re: I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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I've had pretty good results using the AI features in Macrofactor. It's certainly not perfect, but it does a pretty good job with mixed text and photos and allows you to easily fine-tune the results.

Macrofactor is also the only app I've seen that actually estimates your underlying metabolic rate and adjusts accordingly. It predates the recent AI surge, and seems to have a team that's studied nutrition science behind it.

Re: I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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I work for a company that offers nutrition tracking on an app in the App Store. We are not shipping camera functionality yet. But our concept is to not necessarily guarantee the accuracy of portions but to make lookup easier. We also spent the time to get the AI integrated with a verified database. This made our results far more accurate. We tended to find that without the lookup the calories and macros would be gene…

Does that work for homemade food as well? The vast majority of the food we eat is homemade with recipes that don’t have any sort of nutritional information. I’ve always wished there was a simple way to figure out the calories. Taking a picture would be ideal.

Re: I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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I’ve tried a few AI-powered calorie tracking tools too. At first it felt super convenient, just take a photo and get the numbers. But over time I kept seeing mistakes. Sometimes it would even tag a salad as soup. Eventually I went back to the old way. Fewer photos, more mindful eating. Honestly I feel better that way.

Re: I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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The founder of parrotpal (another AI calorie tracking app, supporting both text and photos) points out that using photos is one of the least accurate ways for tracking food: https://www.instagram.com/parrot.pal/reel/DAB9NtfM250/

Users also seem to like using photos less than text for food tracking: https://www.instagram.com/p/DBoSeQzM3bQ/

The author of this article seems to be against the concept of calorie counting as a whole too, but calorie counting does work well for many people. They also bring up intuitive eating as an alternative, but intuitive eating is not intended for weight loss while that's what calorie tracking is usually used for (though it can also be used for maintenance and for weight gain).

Personally, after using MyFitnessPal for a couple years, switching to ParrotPal made calorie counting way less time-I just need to give it a quick text (or voice) description and it does a surprisingly good job of estimating. There are a few times when I need to adjust it, I mostly try to overestimate. It's not perfectly accurate but it gives me enough accuracy to have successfully lost and kept my weight off.

Re: I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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Funny, I was just discussing this on HN a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44185892 There's a lot of questions about the nutritional content of food which you can't answer just by looking at a photo, like "is that a glass of whole milk or non-fat", or "are those vegetables glossy because they're damp or because they're covered in butter". No amount of AI magic is going to solve that.

It will get to the point where it could know to ask those questions, like a human would. Clearly these tools are not there yet, but I think the models are probably good enough for this already.

Re: I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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Funny, I was just discussing this on HN a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44185892 There's a lot of questions about the nutritional content of food which you can't answer just by looking at a photo, like "is that a glass of whole milk or non-fat", or "are those vegetables glossy because they're damp or because they're covered in butter". No amount of AI magic is going to solve that.

It will get to the point where it could know to ask those questions, like a human would. Clearly these tools are not there yet, but I think the models are probably good enough for this already.

It’s probably the only thing that would get me to start taking photos of my food, but it would need to be about as accurate as I am in chronometer.

Re: I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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As a gym enthusiast, if this app can’t give me accurate calorie counts and nutrient data, it’s basically useless to me. But for the average person, this is a big deal because we tend to seek convenience and want the easiest path to our goals. If this app wants to truly deliver results, it still has a long way to go.

Fun fact: The founder of Cal AI is just 18 years old.

Re: I used AI-powered calorie counting apps, and they were even worse than expected

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These apps look gimmicky but they are growing like crazy. CalAI, for example, is making 35M+/yr. I’m hoping that some people really find value in these apps and that they are not just a pure marketing driven play.

This makes me sad. Yes a fool and their money are soon parted but this drives user expectations for apps even lower, pushing competent apps out of the market because of the price difference.
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