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Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by LoganDark »

criddell wrote: post #77
LoganDark wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not exactly LSD, but psilocybin clinics have been legalized in certain locations, such as the US state of Oregon. Psilocybin is of the same psychedelic class (tryptamines), so it is not an entirely dissimilar experience, although for me it's less stimulating than LSD, so YMMV. I understand though that clinics aren't the ideal for many (they are for some), since you aren't allowed to have the trip at home or leave the…

I actually think I would be more comfortable in a clinic.

Then that may be an option for you. It just needs ... a diagnosis of treatment-resistant depression and a prescription for psilocybin therapy by a specially licensed psychiatrist...

Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by mhandley »

duxup wrote: post #33

What a wonderful read. I find myself pining for a lot of the "old days" when anything seemed possible and it was open and exciting. You could DO surprisingly, not a lot, but everything still felt possible. Now everything seems trapped in advertising dominated closed box. Login and live in this limited little space... The internet is still there, I can still put up a site that isn't covered with ads. I wish I could su…

I came of age in the 8-bit era of the early 80s, rode the Internet wave of the 90s and early 2000s, kind of missed the mobile wave but spent that time developing ideas that would eventually turn out to be useful for AI, and now I'm having great fun on the AI wave. I'm happy to have grown up and lived when I did, but I feel that each era of my life has had its own unique opportunities, excitement and really interesting technical problems to work on. And perhaps most importantly, great people to work with.

Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by apples_oranges »

criddell wrote: post #71
ronbenton wrote: post #16

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Apparently we need to be doing more LSD

I wish safe, tested sources were generally available. I’m 55 this year and would like to try it, but I’m not going to buy street drugs nor am I capable of producing it. Is there a pharmaceutical version of LSD available somewhere in the world through legitimate channels?

Not sure about "safe and tested" but LSD prodrugs (substances that metabolise into LSD which then works as usual) are available in many places. One example is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1D-LSD .

Eventually they are made illegal but new ones appear.

Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by napierzaza »

r0m4n0 wrote: post #51

> I left Apple with Marc Porat and Andy Hertzfeld to co-found General Magic and help to invent the personal communicator. It’s always wild to me how many of the people that are the beginnings of these large prodigy companies and the connection to other powerful rich people. You look up some of these people and see the relationships and it’s wild. Like the name Porat rang a bell so I look up Marc and oh? That’s Ruth P…

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Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by piyiotisk »

0xCE0 wrote: post #60
piyiotisk wrote: post #57

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I totally agree. I watched it 3 times as well. One in London with a panel of the general magic employees. It was an amazing experience

Oh wow, that must have been magical. Have you seen "Halt and Catch Fire"? These two masterpieces are my top 2 watchings. Both so amazing but generally unknown/underrated.

Yeah in London, I was sitting next to Tony Fadell. I couldn’t believe it!

I didn’t know about this show. Thanks for the recommendation I’ll check it out.

Is it based on a true story?

Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by majormajor »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #68
r0m4n0 wrote: post #51

> I left Apple with Marc Porat and Andy Hertzfeld to co-found General Magic and help to invent the personal communicator. It’s always wild to me how many of the people that are the beginnings of these large prodigy companies and the connection to other powerful rich people. You look up some of these people and see the relationships and it’s wild. Like the name Porat rang a bell so I look up Marc and oh? That’s Ruth P…

It's very localised and Californian. There were really two big tech scenes - one around MIT and Mass, and one around CalTech/Stanford and adjacent areas - with some also-rans in other areas that were mostly gov mil/aerospace spinoffs. The Mass scene sort of fizzled in the 90s for various reasons - not dead, but not dominant - and the centre of gravity moved to the West Coast. So if you were born in CA and studied the…

> This is sold as a major efficiency of US capitalism, but in fact it's a major inefficiency because it's a severe physical and cultural constraint on opportunity.

I don't think social relationships and their geography are a particular characteristic of capitalism - let alone US-specific capitalism.

They - and the resulting hub/centralization effects - predate it by millennia. There is no shortage of historical cities or state that became major hubs for certain industries or research. How much of the effort in those places is "wasted" seems hard to quantify in an objective way, but again, the pattern of low-hanging fruit being more available to the first wave and then a lot of smart, hard-working people in the future generations working more around the edges is not capitalism-exclusive.

Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by carlosjobim »

criddell wrote: post #71
ronbenton wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently we need to be doing more LSD

I wish safe, tested sources were generally available. I’m 55 this year and would like to try it, but I’m not going to buy street drugs nor am I capable of producing it. Is there a pharmaceutical version of LSD available somewhere in the world through legitimate channels?

If you haven't done it by 55, you probably aren't going to do it. There are easy ways to get safe LSD if you want it. But you do not actually want it.

Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by duxup »

promiseofbeans wrote: post #61
duxup wrote: post #33

What a wonderful read. I find myself pining for a lot of the "old days" when anything seemed possible and it was open and exciting. You could DO surprisingly, not a lot, but everything still felt possible. Now everything seems trapped in advertising dominated closed box. Login and live in this limited little space... The internet is still there, I can still put up a site that isn't covered with ads. I wish I could su…

https://kagi.com/smallweb

Thank you.

Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by vl »

cellu wrote: post #66
r0m4n0 wrote: post #51

> I left Apple with Marc Porat and Andy Hertzfeld to co-found General Magic and help to invent the personal communicator. It’s always wild to me how many of the people that are the beginnings of these large prodigy companies and the connection to other powerful rich people. You look up some of these people and see the relationships and it’s wild. Like the name Porat rang a bell so I look up Marc and oh? That’s Ruth P…

It’s purely luck driving success. The book _thinking fast and slow_ illustrates it quite eloquently. Real geniuses are rare and even then they do not necessary become successful

Thinking Fast and Slow is in the center of Replication Crisis. Basically large parts of it were written based on research that later was found out to be fabricated.

Re: Joining Apple Computer (2018)

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Post by asveikau »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #20
j_bum wrote: post #17

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You had me up until your last clause… If you understand that LSD doesn’t permanently alter the brain, why do you think PY “permanently” alters the brain? It does alter the brain (like LSD; see the plethora of research on PY altering neurogenesis and functional connectivity [0]), I’m unsure of what you mean by “permanent”. [0] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07624-5

It permanently changed my buddy's brain when we were in college doing it. He thought he was talkng to God and blew his brains out. Not worth it for me now.

If you've known a few people who suffer psychotic symptoms and get to know the pattern of how they developed, drugs can appear commonly but it's much less cut and dry whether the drugs are responsible.

For example college age, like your buddy was at, is very typically the onset time for schizophrenia even without drugs. And schizophrenia itself may make people gravitate towards drugs.

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