Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

Post by antifa » Sun, Jun 08, 2025, 1:01 PM UTC

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It's murky. NASA outsources a lot of money to SpaceX because Musk could burn through risk and money at levels NASA would get cancelled for. At what point is SpaceX's benefiting from tax money and NASA technology become a reason to fold into a national asset. China didn't achieve its Great Leap Forward by pandering to wealthy celebrities who cosplay as geniuses.

The Great Leap Forward (1958-62) was an absolute disaster that resulted in widespread famine.

Post by rbanffy » Sun, Jun 08, 2025, 1:05 PM UTC

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Corporate politics doesn’t adequately punish the traits narcissists and sociopaths present. Quite the contrary, those traits can easily become assets in their careers.

Exactly. It's an evolutionarily beneficial trait. We're no longer competing with other species (why social traits developed), we're competing against each other (where the right amount of anti-social traits works best).

Post by jxjnskkzxxhx » Sun, Jun 08, 2025, 1:13 PM UTC

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For what it's worth, the way you've phrased this question doesn't sound like you want to discuss any of these issues. It sounds like you have bones to pick with what people have said and want to argue about it.

Post by ZeroGravitas » Sun, Jun 08, 2025, 1:14 PM UTC

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> Musk is a known pedophile-accusation-maker Laughably so. Musk: I can save those boys trapped in the cave! We can use this stupid submarine thing of mine. Hero: No need, I and my Navy SEAL cave-diving pals have got this. Musk: How dare you! You're a pedo. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44779998 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50695593 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45418245

He was sued for that by the guy and won his trial by convincing the judge that "pedo" is actually common Afrikaner lingo, and it was a casual insult. This country is a joke. Also doesn't remove the fact Trump was one of Epstein's closest friends, and everything points to him being involved in some way or the other in those affairs.

Post by Atreiden » Sun, Jun 08, 2025, 1:22 PM UTC

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It turns out that when elections are fought on the basis of identity (race, religion) etc corruption is actually considered a benefit! This is because the loyalists interpret this as "we" are winning and "they" are losing. I witnessed this up close in India where parties openly exist to benefit certain constituencies based on caste, language, religion and so on. It is horrifying to see this attitude take root in my a…

>It turns out that when elections are fought on the basis of identity (race, religion) etc corruption is actually considered a benefit! This is because the loyalists interpret this as "we" are winning and "they" are losing. So how could one design a political system so this behavior doesn't emerge / is not incentivized?