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The Italians truly invent everything first, eh? Fascism, trumpism, etc

Trumpism is just another league I believe. You may say it's Berlusconism on steroids, but the global impact makes this a thing by itself.

It really isn't; Trump just has a bigger stage. Trumpism is a misnomer by itself; Trump has no ideology, no grand scheme that I can discern.

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“ For we each of us deserve everything, every luxury that was ever piled in the tombs of the dead kings, and we each of us deserve nothing, not a mouthful of bread in hunger. Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and…

Meh, tell it to Darwin. Heat death will come for us all in the end, and there is no refuge to be found in our navels. Why accelerate it by embracing mediocrity? We should identify talent, reward it, and do the best we can with what we have, while we can. The part about "identifying talent" is where people seem to lose the plot, unfortunately.

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Obama 2012: "There are no red states or blue states, just the United States." You may dismiss that as just words, but the modern right does not even attempt to speak in those terms.

Does the modern left?

Biden's inaugural address was full of this

"To all those who supported our campaign, I'm humbled by the faith you've placed in us. To all of those who did not support us, let me say this. Hear me out as we move forward. Take a measure of me and my heart. If you still disagree, so be it. That's democracy. That's America. The right to dissent peaceably. Within the guardrails of our republic, it's perhaps this nation's greatest strength. Yet hear me clearly: disagreement must not lead to disunion. And I pledge this to you, I will be a president for all Americans, all Americans. And I promise you, I will fight as hard for those who did not support me as for those who did."

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It's wild that a president can say, "I don't like Elon anymore, so out of retaliation, I'm canceling all his government contracts," and ~40% of the country doesn't see that as corruption in any way, shape, or form. Government contracts should not be based on whether or not the president likes the CEO, and the CEO says enough good things about the president. If you can cancel contacts not based on merit, then it shoul…

You are taking this at face value. It’s all farce.

Elon helped Trump get elected. Now Trump has to help Elon get the Trump stink off so people stop calling it the swasticar.

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>It’s best to understand that fascists see hypocrisy as a virtue. It’s how they signal that the things they are doing to people were never meant to be equally applied. For my friends - everything, for my enemies - the law.

I used to love this pithy quote but reflecting on it more recently this doesn't seem like something limited to fascists or fascism. Indeed, this kind of thinking is used by those of any political leaning when ideology becomes more important than principles. An obvious example is the USSR.

Red fascism is a term that has been used to equate Stalinism with fascism, so maybe the quote still has merit?

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If it’s not an insurrection what it is? What is the organization of thousands of individuals to invade the capital building in protest of election results?

Just because it failed, doesn’t mean it wasn’t an insurrection.

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Hey it’s ok to be confused. This week we stop hating musk (but trump is still a baddie). You’re allowed to make comments like this where you express joy at watching his suffering: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44196058 . but only for another week. In 20 days musk will be a goodie and then you mustn’t at all say anything negative at all about him. He’s a goodie. Again, trump is a baddie (baddie status began in…

Hot take: they're both baddies, and they always will be.

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So, the government would do what, lean on Russia with whom the USA is currently engaged in a proxy war? Also, for Boeing or Blue Origin, the cost would currently be higher per launch, and as far as I know, no one has the kind of satellite network that SpaceX does. Of course, those are sane considerations. I suppose I shouldn’t accuse the Donald of any kind of rational thinking.

SpaceX is critical infrastructure to the US at this point and its continued availability and operation is of national security interest. That may sound like it gives Elon power. It's the opposite, actually. No US administration will take lightly threats to national security infrastructure like this. The nuclear option for any administration is to nationalize SpaceX, which they absolutely could do. Less nuclear: the U…

You don’t get more milk by beating the cow.
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