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Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

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Re: Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

#111

It's wild that a president can say, "I don't like Elon anymore, so out of retaliation, I'm canceling all his government contracts," and ~40% of the country doesn't see that as corruption in any way, shape, or form. Government contracts should not be based on whether or not the president likes the CEO, and the CEO says enough good things about the president. If you can cancel contacts not based on merit, then it shoul…

On the positive side, Trump is so unstable that he'll trash your business one day and then the next day he'll reverse course. So, "if people kiss your ass enough, they get contract" does not seem to be a long-term viable strategy. (Exhibit A: Musk.) I'm 90% sure it will lead to America's ruin, but it might not quite be the same path that led the USSR to ruin. Hey, at least it looks more entertaining! :/

That’s the key right? It’s world as content. Nothing means anything anymore as long as it gets spread on media platforms. The easiest way for the US to get out this downward spiral is to just ignore the medias coverage of ”politics”. But that’s not gonna happen is it? Gotta se what happens next!

Re: Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

#112

It's wild that a president can say, "I don't like Elon anymore, so out of retaliation, I'm canceling all his government contracts," and ~40% of the country doesn't see that as corruption in any way, shape, or form. Government contracts should not be based on whether or not the president likes the CEO, and the CEO says enough good things about the president. If you can cancel contacts not based on merit, then it shoul…

On the positive side, Trump is so unstable that he'll trash your business one day and then the next day he'll reverse course. So, "if people kiss your ass enough, they get contract" does not seem to be a long-term viable strategy. (Exhibit A: Musk.) I'm 90% sure it will lead to America's ruin, but it might not quite be the same path that led the USSR to ruin. Hey, at least it looks more entertaining! :/

> Hey, at least it looks more entertaining! :/

did people expect any different when they elected a reality TV star to be president?

one that's such an incredible businessman he managed to bankrupt not one, but two casinos

Re: Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

#114
post #18

It's wild to me how many conspiracy theories I've seen about how this is all staged, like it's a distraction or it's just Elon repairing his image and trying to rescue Tesla (whose sales are cratering). Psychologically, I think this is reflective of cognitive dissonance. The two conflicting ideas are that two people with much to lose would get in the dumbest fight imaginable and the myth of meritocracy [1]. You see,…

There is no myth. Both Trump and Elon have generational talent in their respective domains. This is the kind of talent that’s so unique, it creates its own domain that didn’t exist before, and that no one will be able to replicate after. But they’re both unstable, and have many other negative features. One can have an extraordinary talent in starting generational companies, and have a social media addiction (among po…

> Both Trump and Elon have generational talent in their respective domains

That's an interesting way of saying they were born into a wealthy family

Re: Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

#117

It's wild that a president can say, "I don't like Elon anymore, so out of retaliation, I'm canceling all his government contracts," and ~40% of the country doesn't see that as corruption in any way, shape, or form. Government contracts should not be based on whether or not the president likes the CEO, and the CEO says enough good things about the president. If you can cancel contacts not based on merit, then it shoul…

I've said before that by the time Trump is through America will lie in ruins. I may have been too optimistic, it might happen earlier.

Re: Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

#118
post #92
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair Elon claimed that Trump is mentioned in the remainder of files which have yet to be released. Presumably what evidence there is of wrongdoing, if it exists, exists there. "Pedo guy" Musk being Musk, though, who knows? What is the likelihood Musk would even have access to those files if they were so damning to Trump and still sealed? Nothing about this is "quite obvious." It could go either way. To be hones…

I think the tone of the message would be way more serious if it was a serious accusation based on actual evidence. Now it reads like a kindergarten level conspiracy theory, which almost seems like a joke. The silly claim was that Trump being in the files is the reason why they aren't released. And apparently he has now deleted the tweet.

Without seeing the unreleased files we can't know how silly the claim is.

Re: Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

#119
post #17

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A lot of SpaceX technology has export restrictions. On top of that, Elon himself doesn't have any engineering knowledge or degrees and his entire knowledge base on space travel is from Kerbal Space Program that he played for like a week. So what exactly is he going to bring to other countries space programs? The people working at SpaceX aren't going to move to China, and Elon can't just pack his rockets up in a suitcase and fly somewhere else with them.

Re: Musk-Trump dispute includes threats to SpaceX contracts

#120
Not quite relevant, but I've noticed that there's this trend on HN where if there's a non-tech-related happening that's significant and it's obviously something that people want to discuss, people will try and find a tech-related angle in order to discuss the wider issue.
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