Live data from Hacker News

After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

mashable.com

11–20 of 228 posts

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#11

Lovely, people would go to prison, just to see some porn! > engaging in illegal activities while using a VPN remains prohibited under French law. https://medium.com/@green21/is-vpn-legal-in-france-exploring... France has very stupid and strict laws, that apply accross borders! For example paternity test gets you two years, even when physically done in another country!

Wait what? You can't do a Paternity test in France?

[deleted]

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#12

Lovely, people would go to prison, just to see some porn! > engaging in illegal activities while using a VPN remains prohibited under French law. https://medium.com/@green21/is-vpn-legal-in-france-exploring... France has very stupid and strict laws, that apply accross borders! For example paternity test gets you two years, even when physically done in another country!

Wait what? You can't do a Paternity test in France?

Also in Germany and probably some other countries.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#14

Because apparently french parents can't handle the education of their children.

There's a big cultural gap here. To people who are concerned about porn, it's like asking why we have to stop children from buying handles of vodka.

Can't you just educate them to avoid drinking to excess? No, you can't, they don't have that level of self-control yet.

Isn't it unfair to the responsible bakers who just want a really tender pie crust? Yes, it is, but they're going to have to deal with it.

Won't a determined kid still be able to get their hands on alcohol? Yes, they will, but it matters that they get it less often and less frequently.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#16

Fascinating that France is PH's second-biggest market, presumably after the US.

How is that surprising?

After the US, the three largest Western countries are Germany (which already banned Pornhub), the UK and France, but the UK and France are virtually tied in terms of population, so it was always going to be a tossup between the two.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#18

Because apparently french parents can't handle the education of their children.

There's a big cultural gap here. To people who are concerned about porn, it's like asking why we have to stop children from buying handles of vodka. Can't you just educate them to avoid drinking to excess? No, you can't, they don't have that level of self-control yet. Isn't it unfair to the responsible bakers who just want a really tender pie crust? Yes, it is, but they're going to have to deal with it. Won't a deter…

Alchool is poison. If you handle it maturely, it remains an intoxicant.

Chocolate should be eaten with restraint. If you handle it maturely, it remains something not that comparable to alchool.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#19
> "and having offshore porn sites or any other third parties collect IDs from adults and becoming a repository of potential blackmail material comes with its own risks [...] A more technically sound approach would be content controls directly implemented on the devices parents chose to give their children" said the company's (Proton's) spokesperson

While I agree with their second point, the first argument sounds a bit overly dramatic, considering how the implementation seems to work. They couldn't blackmail, as the information they receive is limited.

As far as I understand how at least one of the methods for verification must be, is “double-anonymity” or "double-blind" protocol: the site never sees the user’s identity, the verifier never learns which site is being visited, and only a yes/no “18+” token is exchanged. Then other methods could be offered too.

Although if we assume the average security competence with these types of companies, handling ID documents and stuff, they'll surely get hacked sooner or later. So maybe the link between porn site and identity isn't there, but your personal data that been submitted to them will yet again float out there.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#20

Because apparently french parents can't handle the education of their children.

There's a big cultural gap here. To people who are concerned about porn, it's like asking why we have to stop children from buying handles of vodka. Can't you just educate them to avoid drinking to excess? No, you can't, they don't have that level of self-control yet. Isn't it unfair to the responsible bakers who just want a really tender pie crust? Yes, it is, but they're going to have to deal with it. Won't a deter…

> Can't you just educate them to avoid drinking to excess? No, you can't, they don't have that level of self-control yet

This is not only untrue, it's actually the only worthwhile course.

I know that bans, rules, and technical solutions are not substitutes for parenting. This is why all the kids of the parents I know who have tried that are doing all the supposedly disallowed things secretly (and circumventing the technical restrictions with ease).

Post reply on HN