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VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

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Re: VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

#11
How about making access to the games fairly priced and easily accessible?

Streaming services have dramatically reduced piracy by making it way easier and way cheaper than ever before to consume content.

I don't live in Europe, but if it is like US sports, you need to jump through hoops, pay through the nose, and have 14 different accounts to watch all the sports you want.

Re: VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

#12

Really great that European courts have created all the legal tools for authoritarian control of the internet in the future, to prevent the scourge of watching sports streaming without paying. Before this, it was much easier for ISPs / DNS providers / VPN providers to push back against governments wanting to censor the internet because the companies wouldn't have the tools installed to do this kind of blocking. The co…

Copyright law has always been the most powerful force on the Internet. Which is why its collision with AI companies who pirate the whole Internet is very interesting.

Re: VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

#14
Does double VPN get around these kind of blocks? My understanding is the VPNs are expected to block the websites for french users, but it sounds like people could use VPN #1 to appear as a non-french user to VPN #2. VPN #2 can then allow the user to access the blocked websites, because the law only applies to french users.

Re: VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

#15

How about making access to the games fairly priced and easily accessible? Streaming services have dramatically reduced piracy by making it way easier and way cheaper than ever before to consume content. I don't live in Europe, but if it is like US sports, you need to jump through hoops, pay through the nose, and have 14 different accounts to watch all the sports you want.

Also just more accessibility in terms of being able to pay for it. As a viewer in Canada, there was no service whatsoever that was showing the Real Madrid vs Barcelona Spanish cup final a few months ago (Copa del Rey). I had to signup on a Spanish state tv website and use a VPN to access it for free.

I would have gladly paid, but there was no opportunity.

Content fragmentation and some sports rights not being bought and resold by anyone is also a big problem.

Re: VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

#16

How about making access to the games fairly priced and easily accessible? Streaming services have dramatically reduced piracy by making it way easier and way cheaper than ever before to consume content. I don't live in Europe, but if it is like US sports, you need to jump through hoops, pay through the nose, and have 14 different accounts to watch all the sports you want.

I still believe Gabe Newell was right when he said that piracy is a service problem. This case doesn't seem to be any different.

Re: VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

#18

How about making access to the games fairly priced and easily accessible? Streaming services have dramatically reduced piracy by making it way easier and way cheaper than ever before to consume content. I don't live in Europe, but if it is like US sports, you need to jump through hoops, pay through the nose, and have 14 different accounts to watch all the sports you want.

That’s what it’s like in the UK now. Legal streaming is much more complicated than satellite back in the day.

As a consequence people have gone back to illegal streams where you can find all the sports on one menu.

Re: VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

#19

When these VPN providers comply with these court orders, do they only implement blocking at the DNS level? Couldn't you still use these VPNs, but use a DNS provider that isn't censored?

Most likely they will be forced to implement IP level firewall rules. IE: Traffic from French users is not allowed to go to . This is one of the things the local ISPs already have to do.

It seems that the list of destination IPs would then be determined by whatever the domains listed resolve to (I assume). Since it's trivial to update DNS records, I wonder if they could lead to automated blocking of whatever IP those domains point to.

With that in place, I wonder if that could ever be abused by these pirate sites. Imagine temporarily pointing your pirate site domain name at a valid IP address. When you do that, in theory ISPs (and now VPNs) would automatically block perfectly valid IPs.

This would only happen if the owners of the pirate site domains actually try to do something malicious like that, but I know there are instances in the past of ISPs blocking cloudflare IPs (which is a separate issue, but the scenario I just made up reminds me of it).

Re: VPN providers in France ordered to block pirate sports IPTV

#20

They will have to confirm it in a Swiss court if they want ProtonVPN to comply.

Now worries, the US will try again to force Switzerland to change its copyright laws so we can no longer legally download movies. /s

All this to protect some industry that is falling appart because they can't produce decent films or music anymore. Everything is calculated for profit and creativity is out the door. Meanwhile the small actual talented creators aren't protected and ripped off by the same industry that wants all the protections.

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