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Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by api »

labster wrote: post #108
threeseed wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost certainly the easter egg found in the Trump "Big Beautiful Bill" which prevents states from enacting AI regulations also came from Musk. That way he can continue to steal from others and lock competitors out whilst being comfortable knowing that no laws will be enacted to prevent it.

Yep, Musk saying he’s going to fund primary campaigns against congressmembers who vote for the Big Beautiful Bill is all just a brilliant bit of reverse psychology. Or more likely, Congress is super worried about Roko’s Basilisk.

Basilisk / Skynet 2028

I’m not 100% kidding with how human politics is going. Maybe superintelligent AI takeover would be awesome.

(Wasn’t that the back story of the Culture novels?)

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by narrator »

Elon mentioned that the earlier rate limiting was for preventing training the real-time AI propaganda deathstar, and to avoid X becoming bot hell, which is an ongoing problem. This move is probably for similar reasons.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by MonkeyClub »

jaoane wrote: post #95
MonkeyClub wrote: post #86

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> I get to use the platform for free You actually get to generate content for the platform for free. Without you (all of the X users), the platform would be devoid of content, just botspeak and corporate promos. Plus, as the sibling mentioned, they monetize your visit through ads (and data use).

Most posts are ignored and are an absolute loss to the company. Which is why platforms like Twitter only allow you to make money from posting once you reach a certain threshold.

They're not an "absolute loss" since they cost bytes to store, and raise engagement and data metrics.

It's just that they don't want to share the fractions of pennies with everyone, so the fractions accumulate for them.

Then they pay a bit to the higher tiers, so they create the illusion that X is a parallel income source, and gives the lower tiers something to aspire to.

Carrot and stick, or rather glass beads and the hope thereof.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by djaychela »

ivape wrote: post #124
zombot wrote: post #74

Right, stealing training data from others is OK, having it stolen from you is not. What else is new?

X/Twitter has became extremely prohibitive with just about everything since Elon took over. Their API pricing was antagonistic toward even indie developers. Elon is not a generous guy.

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Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by JKCalhoun »

api wrote: post #161
labster wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, Musk saying he’s going to fund primary campaigns against congressmembers who vote for the Big Beautiful Bill is all just a brilliant bit of reverse psychology. Or more likely, Congress is super worried about Roko’s Basilisk.

Basilisk / Skynet 2028 I’m not 100% kidding with how human politics is going. Maybe superintelligent AI takeover would be awesome. (Wasn’t that the back story of the Culture novels?)

It was more or less the story from the "Colossus" trilogy.

And from the video posted the other (older episode of Nova on AI) Arthur C. Clarke is saying that if we allow A.I. to take over, we deserve it.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by djaychela »

reaperducer wrote: post #149
newsbinator wrote: post #127

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> Elon is not a generous guy Why would he be?

> Elon is not a generous guy Why would he be? Why shouldn't he be? He has 10x more of everything in the world than he could ever possibly use in his lifetime. Greed is not a virtue.

> He has 10x more of everything in the world than he could ever possibly use in his lifetime.

Your multiplier is miles off. Not only on basic maths but because he has no idea what to do with all of his wealth other than accrue more and try to prove he's still not the unlikeable teenager he was in SA.

Without a rounding error on his wealth he could fix world wide problems such as clean drinking water for everyone. Instead he follows his self-made "I'm a genius" agenda.

I know there will be no actual day of reckoning for him, but if there were he would have a lot of difficult questions and no decent answers.

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Post by notsosureja1 »

qeternity wrote: post #141
ivape wrote: post #136

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It's kind of a "life arc" that gets fulfilled when you've done it all and have all the money in the world, and reach a certain age. It's a very traditional arc for a humane human being.

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Says a lot about your character that this is the way you think.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by notsosureja1 »

newsbinator wrote: post #127
ivape wrote: post #124

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X/Twitter has became extremely prohibitive with just about everything since Elon took over. Their API pricing was antagonistic toward even indie developers. Elon is not a generous guy.

> Elon is not a generous guy Why would he be?

Because it feels warm and fuzzy to be kind and empathic. Being hateful and greedy and letting avarice rule over your worldview is incredibly sad. But who am I to say.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by DaSHacka »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #63
echelon wrote: post #59

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> No, no one should train, period. I get that you have your own opinion, but I'm personally tired of living in the butter-churning era and would prefer that this all went a bit faster. I want my real time super high fidelity holo sim, all of my chores to be automatically done, protein folding, drug discovery. The life extension, P = NP future. No more incrementalism. If the universe only happens once, and we're only…

There is already a beautiful, exciting world out there full of animals and plants and we don't need AI or some computer crap to experience it. The problem is, creating all this AI and advanced technology is directly crushing that world.

> The problem is, creating all this AI and advanced technology is directly crushing that world.

Do you have a source for this?

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