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Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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> Covid disinformation got people killed. If they trust bad medical advice on YouTube and die, it's their problem.

Even if you don't care about those people, what about the people who would be affected by them? A would-be bomb-maker might only blow themselves up, or they may kill many in a crowd. Somebody walking around with a deadly pathogen infects and kills others. Children die because their parents believe in anti-vax nonsense. Individual freedom ends at the point at which it causes real harm to other people. Also, you know w…

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Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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A bit off topic, but still: Why do we need YouTube and other "Video Hosting" platforms at all? Simply upload your video (webm, or MP4) to any static Webserver and embed in HTML5. Plays nicely and no adds. I don't get why some sites still embed their movies stored on YouTube.

The ads is the reason why content creators post their videos on YouTube. The want to be, and deserve to be, compensated. His audience would shrink immediately if he were to self host his videos and his source of income would disappear overnight; leading to him doing something other than content creation to provide for his family.

For me, it's a little bit that, but probably just as much the bandwidth costs. I used to host some video content, but even if one video got 1/10th the views it gets on YouTube, it would be many TB of bandwidth, and that gets quite expensive.

The solution is to upload in like 360p low quality, but then any screen recordings are a muddy mess and there's no point.

Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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> Whats so special about anti covid desinfo rules? - The magnitude of content involved. - The fact that there exists a significant part of the society which is vocal about not endorsing these particular deletions. - The fact that many people became aware of the moderation ("censorship") that YouTube does and its power. - The fact that these COVID information videos (despite being perhaps wrong) formed important patte…

We also suppress videos on the correct manufacturing process for plastic explosives. Not because doing it safely is a bad idea, but because proliferating bomb making materials is. Covid disinformation got people killed. It will continue to get people killed, especially with a proponent of it leading the US health service. Things likely to lead to death, are likely things you do not want on your platform.

> Covid disinformation got people killed.

You know this claim can never be substantiated right? You will never be able to show causation like that and we would never allow some controlled trial to see whether giving people whatever information you deem as misinformation actually increases the death rate relative to a control group.

Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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but its not about the information, its about who spouts it. For example its possible for the same government entity to be 100% whitelisted in saying "DONT MASK", and also "MASK OR YOU KILL GRANNY", both are 100% allowed, but when some layperson says the one that isnt favored by the regime at the time, well, they are censored at best.

Disinformation got people killed. That creates liability. The causes a platform to suppress information. Information, backed by experts, usually requires intervention by a higher power to supress - because it doesn't carry the same liability.

> Disinformation got people killed

Back this up with data if you want to keep stating this as fact. How do you know know disinformation got people killed, and what specifically are you defining as disinformation?

Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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This is the problem I had with all the content removal around Covid. It never ends with that one topic we may not be unhappy to see removed. From another comment: "Looks like some L-whateverthefuck just got the task to go through YT's backlog and cut down on the mention/promotion of alternative video platforms/self-hosted video serving software." This is exactly what YT did with Covid related content. Here in the UK,…

> all the content removal around Covid

What are you referring to?

Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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Too unreliable. I just use yt-dlp and throw it on VLC on my iPad with airdrop. If it's not worth that effort it probably wasn't worth watching anyway.

There will be a time when computing is so cheap that ads will be injected to the stream in such a way that it is impossible to remove them without real-time AI detector that indentifies the parts where ads are.

Already use sponsor block to stop the meat flavoured AI promoting shitty VPNs in the middle of their streams.

Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

#367

The phrase “considered harmful” should be “considered harmful”. It’s basically an argumentation trick, raising a subjective conclusion to a neutral and objective conclusion without any qualification.

Though in this instance YouTube literally put the "harmful" label on the video. I thought the irony was appropriate.

At least I didn't say "All you need is "!

Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

#368

Cooking at home is considered harmful according to restaurant owners.

Yes, a great analogy. And actually most of the time the food we cook at home is better than what we can get in restaurants. Sadly. Cooking decent food at home takes time, it should have been a restaurant job, but the reality is what it is...

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It's always funny seeing Americans who have clearly got their news about the UK from questionable sources telling us how actually we live in a dystopian open-air prison. In the US, you have people being literally grabbed off the street and sent to foreign prisons because of their speech with no due process, but the UK is the one close to a loss of freedom of speech because checks notes you can be convicted in a court…

Yes the American media overblow some of the issues for clicks. However you can be arrested for speech and it isn't just threats to violence.

> In the US, you have people being literally grabbed off the street and sent to foreign prisons because of their speech with no due process.

This isn't true. Many of these people were arrested because they had entered the country illegally and then sent to foreign prisons. You are falling for the same rage bait media (except it is left leaning).

> This isn't new, of course, I remember some time back I was being told how white people couldn't go into Leicester... while I, a white man, attended University in Leicester.

It depends which area of the city. The University will typically safer than other areas of a city. Most of the people there are students and there is campus security.

There are areas of Manchester (where I used to live) and where I am the only English guy (not white, there were Irish people there) on the street. There was significant racial tensions and fights as a result. The guy that bombed the Arianne Grande concert lived a 5 minute walk away. I moved out of Manchester because I didn't feel safe.

Again not a "no-go zone area", but there are problems with racial tensions. I've heard it is worse in some places in London.

> The UK definitely has issues, even ones related to expression, but generally it's a very free place that does pretty well with respect to it.

As someone that lived outside the UK for long periods of time and knew what the country was like before the 2000s. This isn't true.

Re: Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Whats so special about anti covid desinfo rules? - The magnitude of content involved. - The fact that there exists a significant part of the society which is vocal about not endorsing these particular deletions. - The fact that many people became aware of the moderation ("censorship") that YouTube does and its power. - The fact that these COVID information videos (despite being perhaps wrong) formed important patte…

We also suppress videos on the correct manufacturing process for plastic explosives. Not because doing it safely is a bad idea, but because proliferating bomb making materials is. Covid disinformation got people killed. It will continue to get people killed, especially with a proponent of it leading the US health service. Things likely to lead to death, are likely things you do not want on your platform.

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