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Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according to YouTube

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Post by AStonesThrow »

komali2 wrote: post #234
AStonesThrow wrote: post #174

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This is such a terrible fiasco. You know, I chose to criticize the one video that Jeff singled out as offending. And Jeff has a lot of great content on his channel. Jeff has good and fun DIY projects. Jeff has also said that he is supporting his family, feeding his children, paying for health insurance and medical bills with the earnings from YouTube. This is a legitimate line of work, and Jeff is honestly doing what…

Seems like you're arguing that Jeff wouldn't make money from his channel if the DMCA simply didn't exist at all. I think that's a bit of a stretch. We were discussing his ripping of Bluray discs, which is why DMCA is mentioned.

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Post by account42 »

thrance wrote: post #235
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #225

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> Covid disinformation got people killed. If they trust bad medical advice on YouTube and die, it's their problem.

No, it's everyone's. Herd immunity can only be achieved if a sufficiently large part of the population is vaccinated. Also, and I know basic empathy is a foreign concept nowadays, but what if I wished for my fellow to not die of a preventable disease because a grifter sold them on an insane idea?

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Post by fleebee »

internet101010 wrote: post #67
snovymgodym wrote: post #61

Feels like YouTube is ripe for disruption. In the recent past (say up to the mid 2010s) it was a really good product and there was a reason nobody gave a shit about Vimeo et al, YouTube as a site, app, platform was so far ahead of the competition. But now? Youtube is full of slop, search barely works, and Google is on an endless campaign to make ad-blocking and free downloading impossible. Even most of the "good" cha…

All they need to do is fix the abomination that their search has turned into. 3 relevant, shorts carousel, 9 irrelevant "people also watched", then back to relevant. It's truly awful.

Browser add-ons and/or userscripts may alleviate this problem if those are an option in your use case. I use Unhook (https://unhook.app/) to hide all algorithm recommendations and shorts.

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Post by thrance »

huijzer wrote: post #239
thrance wrote: post #230

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> I'm really tired of people hiding behind free speech and "but what if someone had something important to say!". But who is going to decide what we are allowed to say and what not? We all know “Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely”. It’s very easy for someone to “manufacture consent” if you can take all the opponents out.

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Post by cladopa »

The problem number one is the total monopoly of YouTube in the Internet TV, so they can abuse without consequences. We need competition, but we don't have it because it is a natural monopoly: the more users YouTube has, and the bigger the scale, the cheaper it is for google.

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Post by ulrikrasmussen »

LinXitoW wrote: post #245
ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #220

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The problem is the nature of YouTube, which is a platform with the main purpose of generating revenue based on advertisement while minimizing their own operational risk. YouTube does not care one bit about whether the content they show is informative, harmful or entertaining, they care about maximizing the amount of ad impressions while avoiding legal repercussions (only if the legal repercussions carry a significant…

I mean, this is just capitalism. And while I loved old forums, they were constantly fighting with being underfunded, there was infighting between the "owners", and each one worked differently, making them a bunch of disconnected little silos. Especially compared to Youtube, there's just NO WAY IN HELL any non-exploitative company could ever finance a project of even remotely similar scope. There are already, right kn…

> I mean, this is just capitalism.

Yes, capitalist forces are incredibly strong, which is why we need regulation to avoid negative externalities to spiral out of control. Regulation that is intended to protect consumers often end up being moats for the monopolies to cement their monopolies even further, because the regulation is too heavy and expensive to comply with for the smaller competitors.

I think that child protection laws is an example of such regulation because it will impose a huge legal and financial risk on small sites and forums which were never part of the problem.

This is why I would rather go for regulation which more or less outlaws or severely limits the viability of the problematic business model. This could also backfire of course, but I believe it will be better even though many will find it inconvenient if YouTube disappeared.

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Post by shakna »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #225
shakna wrote: post #210

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We also suppress videos on the correct manufacturing process for plastic explosives. Not because doing it safely is a bad idea, but because proliferating bomb making materials is. Covid disinformation got people killed. It will continue to get people killed, especially with a proponent of it leading the US health service. Things likely to lead to death, are likely things you do not want on your platform.

> Covid disinformation got people killed. If they trust bad medical advice on YouTube and die, it's their problem.

Its the problem of those they affect. "Infectious" is not self-contained to a singular individual.

Its also a problem for the platform - who is now party to it happening.

YouTube allowing bad medical advice will hurt YouTube. Their safest option, is to disallow it.

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Post by aa-jv »

anonymousiam wrote: post #75
w14 wrote: post #59

This is the problem I had with all the content removal around Covid. It never ends with that one topic we may not be unhappy to see removed. From another comment: "Looks like some L-whateverthefuck just got the task to go through YT's backlog and cut down on the mention/promotion of alternative video platforms/self-hosted video serving software." This is exactly what YT did with Covid related content. Here in the UK,…

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Whether you are in the UK or the USA, your freedoms are being degraded even outside the media-consumption sphere.

Until GCHQ and NSA are properly reigned in, nobody is getting their human rights back.

With the base expectations for the abrogation of human rights being set at global scale by these heinous organizations, which subvert our democracies and corrupt them, there can be no expectation that the broader sphere of local human rights will ever recover from the damage caused.

We cannot fight for a free and open society, when that free and open society is being used to abrogate literally billions of human beings rights outside of our own state borders.

The issue will never leave the commons for as long as the military industrial complex is allowed to violate human rights at immensely despicable scales. The protection many claim are being provided, is a fallacy - the net effect of GCHQ/NSA control over our information and communications systems is, a deleterious effect on our ability to protect our rights at an individual level.

A government which promotes this abrogation of human rights at massive scale is never going to be brought to heel over those same rights being returned, locally - whether British, American, Canadian, Australian or Kiwi...

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Post by shakna »

account42 wrote: post #252
thrance wrote: post #235

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No, it's everyone's. Herd immunity can only be achieved if a sufficiently large part of the population is vaccinated. Also, and I know basic empathy is a foreign concept nowadays, but what if I wished for my fellow to not die of a preventable disease because a grifter sold them on an insane idea?

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... Most vaccines do not completely prevent you from contracting a virus.

They reduce the liklihood, and thus reduce the footprint.

Heck, the concept of herd immunity is about protecting individuals who cannot be vaccinated at all. By reducing a virus' footprint.

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