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Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#31

Ads are psychological warfare. Adblock is digital self-defence.

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> had ads and belive it or not people survived.

> You know nothing about psychological warfare if you think ads

... cause everyone to die.

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#32
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern advertising was invented by Edward Bernays in his book 'Propaganda'. It is literally and specifically designed to manipulate beliefs and behaviour. Broadcast TV was created as content to package advertising, not the other way around. The social impact of advertising is enormous - primarily in reenforcing the helplessness and delusion of inevitably around disengaged consumer capitalism that Mark Fisher referred…

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Which part are you even disagreeing with?

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#33
Setting aside the actual ads, I feel like this Premium Lite cannot be long for the world at this point. It seems this is a common problem with corporations gradually trying to squeeze more juice out of products by increasing their complexity, until its so incoherent that people just won't engage anymore. I'm not sure any ordinary person could actually tell you what they would practically pay for Microsoft Office (I mean Office 365, Microsoft 365, no wait Copilot 365). If I open google shopping it looks like there are 10?? different types of licenses/subscriptions I could purchase labeled as either 365 or Office 2024.

Premium already suffers from the issue that you're paying to not experience something, so exactly how obnoxious the thing you're skipping is a little fuzzy. Once you start adding layers of tweaks to the definition of "some" ads, its hard to imagine people being enthusiastic to pay for it.

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#34
If you're on desktop, use ublock origin and sponsor block.

If you're on Android, use tubular (https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular). It has no ads, built-in sponsor block and allows you to download videos and play them in the background for music.

If you're on Android TV, use Smart Tube (https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube). It basically has the same features as above, but with a TV-friendly UI.

If you're on iOS, consider switching to an OS where a big corp doesn't control what software you can run.

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#35

YouTube without an adblocker is borderline unusable. I would have no problem paying for premium if they didn’t also steal your data. They can’t have both, not from me anyway.

Unhook and Channel Block also make my youtube experience much better. I did pay for Premium at one point but they kept pushing "features" that couldn't be disabled, I provided feedback, but I imagine it goes nowhere, so I stopped paying them.

I put a youtube video on the TV last week and all the adverts were deep fakes of famous people saying you can get rich with this one trick and a QR code to scan. One of the videos was a deep fake of the UK PM Keir Starmer saying thousands of people can claim an unknown benefit. How are these adverts not considered harmful?

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#36
post #12

Ads are psychological warfare. Adblock is digital self-defence.

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> only a select few are capable of installing and maintaining an adblocker.

You mean the select few 31% ? https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users

There's no maintenance either.

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#37
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Installing an adblocker is trivially easy. I just checked, and it took me 5 clicks total, and typing in "Ad blocker" in the addons search.

Yes, especially if you ignore all the risks - does that solution you googled in 5 seconds steal your data after 5 clicks - it is easy

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#38

Ads are psychological warfare. Adblock is digital self-defence.

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Ads shape opinions. Why do political parties spend so much on them? Carefully curated ads can control you on subtle levels. Read the Propaganda book that another reply cited and also read Elul’s. Also read the works or experiments by B.F Skinner and then Kaheneman. You’ll notice this golden thread that ultimately culminates in “mind control” today via algorithmic shaping for content curation and advertisement. It’s why people who are terminally online are often ideological extremists and generally mentally unhealthy.

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#39

YouTube without an adblocker is borderline unusable. I would have no problem paying for premium if they didn’t also steal your data. They can’t have both, not from me anyway.

I used this fact to get rid of my YouTube addiction.

I used to have Premium and listen to videos in the background while working, doing chores, all kinds of stuff. I realized 95% of the content I'm listenting to is garbage, and another 5% percent is good content that deserves my full attention, not just me listening to it while doing other stuff.

Stopped paying for premium, the experience is so unbearable that after a couple of days, I stopped watching YouTube.

I guess I could also just adblock, but they keep breaking every couple of weeks (gee, I wonder why), but honestly I don't mind less YT in my life.

Re: Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon

#40
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern advertising was invented by Edward Bernays in his book 'Propaganda'. It is literally and specifically designed to manipulate beliefs and behaviour. Broadcast TV was created as content to package advertising, not the other way around. The social impact of advertising is enormous - primarily in reenforcing the helplessness and delusion of inevitably around disengaged consumer capitalism that Mark Fisher referred…

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From your own link:

> In the 1910s and 1920s, many ad men believed that human instincts could be targeted and harnessed – "sublimated" into the desire to purchase commodities.[44] Edward Bernays, a nephew of Sigmund Freud, promoted the approach making him a pioneer of modern cigarette advertising

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