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Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by tetris11 »

labster wrote: post #108
threeseed wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost certainly the easter egg found in the Trump "Big Beautiful Bill" which prevents states from enacting AI regulations also came from Musk. That way he can continue to steal from others and lock competitors out whilst being comfortable knowing that no laws will be enacted to prevent it.

Yep, Musk saying he’s going to fund primary campaigns against congressmembers who vote for the Big Beautiful Bill is all just a brilliant bit of reverse psychology. Or more likely, Congress is super worried about Roko’s Basilisk.

That's a wild reference!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk

> Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states there could be an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future that would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to incentivize said advancement.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by littlestymaar »

blibble wrote: post #67
ronsor wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If enough "relevant" countries do it, that either won't happen or won't matter. If the U.S. ditches it, no one is going to do much more than throw a brief fit.

the US is the main beneficiary of copyright law...

The US copyright corporations, indeed. But the current copyright laws come at a big expense for the public.

Abolishing copyright laws altogether would be nuts, but the current laws are nuts too and there's lots of room in between.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by stuaxo »

tetris11 wrote: post #111
labster wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, Musk saying he’s going to fund primary campaigns against congressmembers who vote for the Big Beautiful Bill is all just a brilliant bit of reverse psychology. Or more likely, Congress is super worried about Roko’s Basilisk.

That's a wild reference! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk > Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states there could be an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future that would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to incentivize said advancement.

And some of the CEOs of LLM companies seem to believe in it, and that "AGI" will come from their LLM work - both of which are utterly insane points of view.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by BoxOfRain »

tetris11 wrote: post #111
labster wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, Musk saying he’s going to fund primary campaigns against congressmembers who vote for the Big Beautiful Bill is all just a brilliant bit of reverse psychology. Or more likely, Congress is super worried about Roko’s Basilisk.

That's a wild reference! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk > Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states there could be an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future that would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to incentivize said advancement.

It's Pascal's Wager with a sci-fi reskin, and all the objections that go along with that.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by HenryBemis »

littlestymaar wrote: post #101
mgoetzke wrote: post #93

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why do you think he is so evil but all others are benign ?

None of them are benign. He's the only one to have been in a government office though, and he's also batshit crazy, which makes him even more dangerous than the other oligarchs.

He is not "batshit crazy", or maybe he is. But he is making the next generation of ICBMs for the US government, sorry.. he is making super-duper rockets that will definitely take people to Mars and his companies/creations will be the very first tech ever to _not_ be used for war and death!!! (he wrote while laughing). So that settles it (all).

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by HenryBemis »

lambertsimnel wrote: post #94
lesuorac wrote: post #33

Who's training an AI on the "Tweet" button text? Or are they trying to forgo section 230 protection and claim ownership of content uploaded to the site?

Perhaps they want the prohibition on using the site content for AI training to be considered based on something other than their ownership of it, like bandwidth usage or users' rights

They will get paid to share our (your) data and they will use the money for infra and new yachts.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Post by lambertsimnel »

HenryBemis wrote: post #118
lambertsimnel wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps they want the prohibition on using the site content for AI training to be considered based on something other than their ownership of it, like bandwidth usage or users' rights

They will get paid to share our (your) data and they will use the money for infra and new yachts.

Indeed, but I'm speculating that they do that without owning the data or even claiming to. That's consistent with the article, but I haven't read the other relevant documents. Maybe they have a license to use the data. Maybe the license allows or requires them to try to restrict others' AI training, regardless of their non-ownership of it. Maybe that serves multiple purposes, in which case they could point to whichever shows them in the best light.
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