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Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

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Can I say it's similar to Signoz, in that both are ClickHouse-powered and available as both open-source and hosted versions? How are you guys different compared to Signoz?

(The UI looks similar too, although I guess a lot of observability tools seem to adopt that kind of UI).

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#52

Datadog is expensive this is true. But I have never felt it be slow. Speed is not its killer feature. It’s everything you can do with it once you have logs and or metrics flowing into it. The dashboards and their creation are intuitive. Creating alerts and things from airflow logs is easy using their DSL. Connecting and sending notifications to things like slack just works tm. So this is how we justify the datadog co…

Totally agree - you use an observability tool because it answers your questions quickly, not just return searches quickly.

Beyond raw performance and cost effectiveness, which is quite important at scale, we work a lot on making sure the application layer itself is intuitive to use. You can always play around with what ours looks like at play.hyperdx.io :)

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#53
We run a full Grafana stack (Loki, tempo, Prometheus, alloy agent, Grafana) and back out with self hosted S3 (we are all onprem physical hardware).

While I do like the stack we have, it is a lot of components to run and configure. Don’t think we have ever had any issues once it was up and running.

Does anyone have any thoughts about how this compares? We don’t have a huge amount of days, 1 month of metrics is about 200GB and logs isn’t a whole lot more, less than a TB I think for 2 weeks.

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#54

I'm looking for a new logging solution to replace Kibana. I have very good experience with ClickHouse, and HyperDX looks like a decent UI for it. I'm primarily interested in logs, though, and the existing log shipping pipeline is around Vector on Kubernetes. Admittedly Vector has an OTel sink in beta, but I'm curious if that's the best/fastest way to ship logs, especially given that the original data comes out of app…

I think settling to otel as transport/wire-format is an excellent strategic choice offering most possibilities towards the future. Two concerns less.

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree - rotel seems like a really good fit for a lightweight lambda integration for OTel, it of course should work already since we stand up an OTel ingest endpoint so it should be seamless to send data over! (Kind of the beauty of OTel of course) I've also been in touch with Mike & Ray for a bit, who've told me they've added ClickHouse support recently which makes the story even better :)

Hi all — one of the authors of Rotel here. Thanks for the kind words, Bilal and Michael. We're excited to test our Clickhouse integration with Clickstack, as we believe OTel and Clickhouse make for a powerful observability stack. Our open-source Rust OpenTelemetry collector is designed for high-performance, resource-constrained environments. We'd love for you to check it out!

wow didn't know about rotel ... looks very interesting indeed. Especially those python bindings ... Bookmarked!

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#56

This is really cool considering how expensive DataDog can get. I'm the author of LogLayer ( https://loglayer.dev ), which is a structured logger for TypeScript that allows you to use multiple loggers together. I've written transports that allows shipping to other loggers like pino and cloud providers such as DataDog. I spent some time writing an integration for HyperDX after seeing this post and hope you can help me…

Hey this looks awesome! We will take a look at it

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#57

I am absolutely amazed at the amount of garbage being "logged", enough that it is not just a huge business, but also one of the primary task for some devops guys. It's like a goal in itself, you have a look at the output and it is absolutely scary, HUGE messages being "logged" for purpose unknown. I've seen single traces over 100KB of absolute pure randomness encoded as base64... Because! Oh and also, we have to pay…

I totally agree with this. Same for metrics.

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still confused where HyperDX ends and where ClickStack starts. Is HyperDX === ClickStack? Is ClickStack = HyperDX + something closed source? Is ClickStack just a cloud version of HyperDX? Is it same thing, HyperDX, rebranded as ClickStack?

This is good feedback to make things more clear :) HyperDX is part of ClickStack, so ClickStack = { HyperDX, ClickHouse, OTel }. This is the stack we recommend that will deploy in seconds and _just work_, and can scale up to PB+ and beyond as well with some additional effort (more than a few seconds unfortunately, but one day...) HyperDX v2, the version that is now stable and shipped in ClickStack, focuses more on th…

I'm also a bit confused. I'm using HyperDX cloud and sending telemetry directly from NextJS. What's the benefit of using ClickStack compared to HyperDX cloud?

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still confused where HyperDX ends and where ClickStack starts. Is HyperDX === ClickStack? Is ClickStack = HyperDX + something closed source? Is ClickStack just a cloud version of HyperDX? Is it same thing, HyperDX, rebranded as ClickStack?

This is good feedback to make things more clear :) HyperDX is part of ClickStack, so ClickStack = { HyperDX, ClickHouse, OTel }. This is the stack we recommend that will deploy in seconds and _just work_, and can scale up to PB+ and beyond as well with some additional effort (more than a few seconds unfortunately, but one day...) HyperDX v2, the version that is now stable and shipped in ClickStack, focuses more on th…

What's your opinion on OTel when trying to keep things small and performant? I've got some experience working with OTel the last few years, and I'm a bit afraid of the expanding scope and complexity compared to "simpler", more targeted solutions, like for instance Vector.

I'm just asking because you mention OTel and "other ways" in your post, and you must have a good overview over the options and where the market is headed.

Re: Show HN: ClickStack – Open-source Datadog alternative by ClickHouse and HyperDX

#60
I’m not sure what this is intended to do, but when I created an account, I saw in the left sidebar a widget saying “Was this search result helpful?” with thumbs up and thumbs down buttons. I hadn’t searched for anything. I pressed the “Hide” button instead, and the widget changed to an “Any feedback?” button. I thought I would tell you about this weird bug, so I clicked the feedback button. The widget changed back into the “Was this search result helpful?” widget.

I found the UX very difficult to read. The monospace font, the unusually small text, the bold white and bright green text on a dark background… I found it a little more readable by changing the font to system-ui, but not by much. Please consider a more traditional style instead of leaning into the 80s terminal gimmick. This factor alone makes me want to not use it. It needs to be easy to read, not a pain to read.

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