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Post by dji4321234 »

stackedinserter wrote: post #165
dji4321234 wrote: post #40

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There's enormous adoption of autonomous drones. A large number of front-line FPV drones are equipped with automated last-second targeting systems like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coUwYOyIoAU , based on Chinese NPU IP / CCTV systems and readily available as full solutions on Aliexpress. The basic idea is that if the drone loses control or video link due to EW countermeasures, it can continue to the last target. Lo…

You have no idea what you're talking about and your video is just a demo from some chinese account. There are tons of footage from drone units, from both sides, and they are all old school analog FPV until the very last moment.

https://x.com/sternenko/status/1770348417102819563

Rather, it is you who does not know what you are talking about. Here is a real frontline video characterizing these systems. Yes, it is all still analog FPV. The lock-on system selects a target and overlays the reticle on the analog video. As the FPV flies closer and encounters the jamming from the target, the lock-on unit ensures it is still a hit.

These have fallen out of favor as fiber optic is a little easier to get than it used to be but they are still in wide use.

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Post by greenavocado »

jandrese wrote: post #4

This is only a few days after the massive drone attack in Russia. Only a matter of time until we have drones smart enough to dodge bullets (or at least dodge out of where guns are pointing) while flying at breakneck speeds being controlled by AIs we don't fully understand. The tech industry is working hard to bring about the Terminator future.

Let's review what Uncle Ted had to say about this.

See paragraph 87 by searching for "THE MOTIVES OF SCIENTISTS"

https://dn790000.ca.archive.org/0/items/IndustrialSocietyAnd...

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Post by asdff »

arrowsmith wrote: post #169
energy123 wrote: post #117

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All hard countered by a laser like the Iron Beam, no? Unless there's a hard counter to the hard counter?

The problem is the asymmetry. Drones are cheap, can be produced in huge numbers, and can be deployed anywhere by anyone. You can't put laser defences on every target, and the best laser defence could still be overwhelmed by a sufficient number of drones. I am fucking terrified of drones.

Drones still have the limiting factor that is that they need to be produced at all as a piece of technology. Artillery shell on the other hand has all the explosive bits needed to make that drone blow up half your house, only it is a dummy round being fired from technology that has been globally solved and replicated for what over 100 years now, with huge stocks of surplus available along with popular rudimentary designs used by various guerillas around the world.

Increasingly we are also seeing a world where the technology to shape a cultures mind share can be deployed with a few dozen lines of code and a malware bot net rather than a sophisticated and well funded mass media operation a la the 1960s western cultural revolution supported in part by the CIA. You don't even need to blow up the enemies country, you can convince them it is in their best interest to be subjugated and they will remove their own naysayer internally and roll out the carpet for you when you arrive and proclaim your regional Obergruppenführer to meet production quotas.

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Post by NoOn3 »

jajko wrote: post #168
randomtoast wrote: post #141

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And Great Britain just announced plans to deliver 100,000 of them to Ukraine. Ukraine lacks the manpower compared to Russia. It seems logical to strengthen their forces by deploying these flying mini terminators. I believe we are not far from large-scale drone warfare. In World War II, we had epic tank and aircraft battles; now, the time has come for autonomous drone battlefields.

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I'm afraid they won't have a choice. Without Russia The West and Nato will crush China fast.

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Post by mschuster91 »

ashoeafoot wrote: post #212
mschuster91 wrote: post #203

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> There is a area, with tribes, in small medieval villages divided into patriarchal famuly clans governed by warlords. Germany used to be the same until 1871, a loose federation of fiefdoms that regularly went to war amongst each other. Fun fact, the tariff region structure [1] very much resembles a map from what was "Germany" before then [2]. It's not impossible to turn a bunch of small fiefdoms into one powerful en…

Well congrats they got that story, they repelled in order: the mongols, the greek, the chinese, the russians, the british, the russians, the americans and soon the chinese. Are they the swiss yet ? Some ingredient is missing , the story aint it.

Up until the Soviet era, a lot of the natural resources Afghanistan has simply were not relevant, or maybe that fits it better, there were easier ways to acquire them than a country thousands of road (!) miles away from the powers that were.

The Soviets wanted Afghanistan for imperialist reasons, during the first Taliban era there were enough other sources that were more convenient, the Americans lacked the conviction and coherence to follow through... and now the Chinese are swooping in with money.

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Post by NoOn3 »

NoOn3 wrote: post #226
jajko wrote: post #168

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I'm afraid they won't have a choice. Without Russia The West and Nato will crush China fast.

Only The West and Ukraine can stop this, the East part has no choise in that case, becase If they lose, they will cease to exist...

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Post by impossiblefork »

david-gpu wrote: post #191
actionfromafar wrote: post #142

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There are no silver bullets. It's just that having (solely) an elite warrior class is an extra risk.

Decision-making in the armed forces is always performed by a "warrior class". The people who operate heavy war machinery are also career soldiers; conscripts are light infantry. And there is a very real economic cost to mandatory military service. It only makes sense in the context of a small country (in terms of population) bordering a large aggressive neighbor, such as Finland or (possibly) Canada.

No, conscripts operate also tanks and artillery. They also load and prepare combat aircraft.

Artillery and tanks will have some kind of professional officer though.

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