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X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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If an artist or author can't do this, social media shouldn't be able to do it either. If Xai wants to train on public corpus, it shouldn't be allowed to prevent its own corpus from being used. We need regulations to limit the power grabs. Train all you like, but don't dare try to constrain to your walled gardens. We should also probably nip the "foundation model company / also a social media company" conglomeration i…

Social media should do it to set a legal precedent.

> We need regulations to limit the power grabs. Train all you like, but don't dare try to constrain to your walled gardens.

No, no one should train, period.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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There needs to be a worldwide standard, such as an HTML tag, that says "no training". And a few countries need to make it a punishable offense to violate the tag. The punishment should be exceptionally severe, not just a fine. For example: any company that violates the tag should be completely barred from operating, forever.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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There needs to be a worldwide standard, such as an HTML tag, that says "no training". And a few countries need to make it a punishable offense to violate the tag. The punishment should be exceptionally severe, not just a fine. For example: any company that violates the tag should be completely barred from operating, forever.

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Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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There needs to be a worldwide standard, such as an HTML tag, that says "no training". And a few countries need to make it a punishable offense to violate the tag. The punishment should be exceptionally severe, not just a fine. For example: any company that violates the tag should be completely barred from operating, forever.

It needs to be incorporated into the robots.txt standard.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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There needs to be a worldwide standard, such as an HTML tag, that says "no training". And a few countries need to make it a punishable offense to violate the tag. The punishment should be exceptionally severe, not just a fine. For example: any company that violates the tag should be completely barred from operating, forever.

That will just lead to situations where one company scrapes the site, cleans the content of tags, and sells the data, and another does the training on the precleaned data. The first one hasn't trained and the second one never saw the tag.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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There needs to be a worldwide standard, such as an HTML tag, that says "no training". And a few countries need to make it a punishable offense to violate the tag. The punishment should be exceptionally severe, not just a fine. For example: any company that violates the tag should be completely barred from operating, forever.

That will play out exactly like the "Do not track" bit did.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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It would be interesting to have a "classical AI model", trained on the contents of the Harvard libraries before 1926 and now out of copyright.

Careful, you might create an artificial superintelligence that way. Safer to just train on the Twitter dataset.

Re: X changes its terms to bar training of AI models using its content

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post #2

If an artist or author can't do this, social media shouldn't be able to do it either. If Xai wants to train on public corpus, it shouldn't be allowed to prevent its own corpus from being used. We need regulations to limit the power grabs. Train all you like, but don't dare try to constrain to your walled gardens. We should also probably nip the "foundation model company / also a social media company" conglomeration i…

If social media can do this, an artist or author should be able to do it, too.
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