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Re: X's new "encrypted" XChat feature doesn't seem to be any more secure

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Post by fzeroracer »

Meekro wrote: post #79
fzeroracer wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world's richest man was caught cheating at video games via hiring people to play for him for the sake of cred. I don't think I would give him anything.

You're right that he cheated (in some sense), but I don't think "caught" is the right word since he admitted it when he was asked point-blank. He paid someone to level up his character before he played it, not to stream in his name and pretend to be him. Paying someone to level your character is officially against Blizzard's rules in all of their games, but their lack of enforcement reveals that they don't care as lo…

He argued that he was top of the ladder and a top hardcore player in Path of Exile. The rest of your argument is just an excuse for someone lying directly to your face. The only reason why he didn't get banned from Path of Exile (as he should've been) is because he's rich and now tied with the US government.

Re: X's new "encrypted" XChat feature doesn't seem to be any more secure

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Post by mort96 »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #73
0xFEE1DEAD wrote: post #62

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A public chat - like one that anyone can join at any time without needing an invitation? If so, then you really don't need any extra encryption. If not, then it depends on who's using your chat, how they use it, and for what purpose. Are the users of the chat room a small group with occasional users joining or leaving, or are many users expected to join and leave at any given moment? That being said, encrypting the n…

welp, I am just gonna look at Telegram/Signal source and make a lite version for it

I don't think you want to look at the source code, and I don't think you want to look at Telegram. You should have a look at the Signal Protocol: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol. It's well documented. Maybe there are libraries which implement it.

(Though I still think that "how can I protect against TLS being broken?" is the wrong question and you should instead ask "how can I ensure that TLS doesn't break?".)

Re: X's new "encrypted" XChat feature doesn't seem to be any more secure

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Post by theseustheseus »

cyanydeez wrote: post #71
ben_w wrote: post #38

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> You can read anything with the assumption that the writer is an absolute idiot, but I’d give the world’s richest man more credit than that. Before the pandemic, I would've said similar, even despite some of his errors of judgement. Since then, and the trend started earlier, it has become difficult to ignore that (1) he responds poorly to experts contradicting him, and (2) outside his actual domains of expertise (ro…

At best, he brings technical ideas. Not implementation.

He implements implementation.

Re: X's new "encrypted" XChat feature doesn't seem to be any more secure

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Post by sharpshadow »

fzeroracer wrote: post #81
Meekro wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right that he cheated (in some sense), but I don't think "caught" is the right word since he admitted it when he was asked point-blank. He paid someone to level up his character before he played it, not to stream in his name and pretend to be him. Paying someone to level your character is officially against Blizzard's rules in all of their games, but their lack of enforcement reveals that they don't care as lo…

He argued that he was top of the ladder and a top hardcore player in Path of Exile. The rest of your argument is just an excuse for someone lying directly to your face. The only reason why he didn't get banned from Path of Exile (as he should've been) is because he's rich and now tied with the US government.

I thought they didn’t ban him, because they are preoccupied with PoE2..

Re: X's new "encrypted" XChat feature doesn't seem to be any more secure

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Post by SbEpUBz2 »

mrweasel wrote: post #41
bilekas wrote: post #39

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> Oh, wait, is Elon porting the venerable xchat to Rust? :) If this hasn't been done already, I have a new weekend project!

Honestly we're a little short on good IRC clients, so it's not that stupid.

kvirc ftw!

Re: X's new "encrypted" XChat feature doesn't seem to be any more secure

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Post by Vinz_ »

bilekas wrote: post #37
Vinz_ wrote: post #7

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> Dubbed "XChat" (not to be confused with the venerable Linux/Windows IRC app of the same name) It’s not the same XChat

I think you missed the joke. As a fellow XChat user I can assure you, Elon is wrong.

I apparently did, although I still struggle to understand what the joke is, to be honest.

Thank you for at least explaining that I missed a joke, it’s a lot more helpful than downvotes. (I’m not complaining, I don’t really care about internet points, I was just confused about what I did wrong) :)

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