5000AD estimate is complete bullshit. Our energy consumption doubles every ~20 years (15 to 35 by various sources). In only 10 doublings (200 years) our energy consumption will increase 1,000 times. After 20 doublings (400 years), it will increase 1,000,000 times. I expect by then we will be using mostly fusion and/or the energy of the Sun (and/or some new energy source).
New nuclear fuel source would power human race until 5000AD
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#32I really thought this was going to be about Thorium. Surprise - its about extracting Uranium from seawater.
I can not figure out why more effort is not put into thorium nuclear technology research. The only reason I have heard why thorium is not being considered is because it is not weaponizable. Are there any other reasons why thorium based nuclear fission is not being pursued as an energy source?
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, I don't think it's that hand-wavey when nuclear has killed less people ever than coal does every year.
People are more frightened of things they don't understand, so effective advocacy of nuclear power requires making the effort to bridge the information gap. Also, people find concentrated acute harm more scary than dispersed chronic harm, which is why the idea of a plane crash is more disturbing than the larger number of people killed in road accidents.
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#34In the article linked to from this article: A preliminary report by the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency has stated that the response to the Fukushima nuclear incident was "exemplary" and that nobody has been harmed by radiation exposure resulting from it. That seems to contract what the Japanese government's own panel concluded: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18718057
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, I don't think it's that hand-wavey when nuclear has killed less people ever than coal does every year.
People are more frightened of things they don't understand, so effective advocacy of nuclear power requires making the effort to bridge the information gap. Also, people find concentrated acute harm more scary than dispersed chronic harm, which is why the idea of a plane crash is more disturbing than the larger number of people killed in road accidents.
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#36"Since the Fukushima meltdown - as a result of which, not a single person is set to be measurably harmed by radiation - we know that nuclear power is safe." It seems to me like the primary danger from radiation like that leaked from Fukushima would be an increase in cancer. I think it's a little early to be claiming that Fukushima will cause no increase harm to humans. There is already evidence that it caused harm to…
Even though probably not very many people will get cancer that is traceable to the Fukushima disaster, it comes at a price -
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LdLr5QPqPgI/Tukyjp5ZdRI/AAAAAAAAOL...
- permanently abandoning several large towns.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is the permanent solution?
There are several. One is to dump it in the Mariana trench, let nature push it back down into the crust. If we're foresighted, we'll bombard a crater in the moon with it. It won't go anywhere, and if we need to get it back, there it is.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the interesting things about the pale grass butterfly results is that until now scientists considered such insects to be fairly resistant to environmental radiation at a genetic level, notwithstanding their physical delicacy. There are some references to this in the Nature paper. Those findings must be very disturbing to prospective or recent parents that lived in the vicinity of the nuclear plant.
The article isn't very specific on the specific vectors at work here, but from what the scientists did, it sounds like those butterflies were very close indeed and literally ate radioactive materials. So it may not be relevant to local parents unless their kids eat a lot of dirt right outside power plants.
You don't have any kids yourself, I take. They are entropy machines! You never know what stupid (from adult perspective) thing they are going to do next.
Besides, it may be nitpicking, but kids eating dirt right outside power plants would die horrible deaths within days. It is the lesser doses in the rear by populated areas whose effects may not be so well understood.
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#39nothing i've seen or heard leads me to believe that nuclear waste management is a sustainable thing.
this sounds like the oceanic equivelant of fracking.
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#40I really thought this was going to be about Thorium. Surprise - its about extracting Uranium from seawater.
I can not figure out why more effort is not put into thorium nuclear technology research. The only reason I have heard why thorium is not being considered is because it is not weaponizable. Are there any other reasons why thorium based nuclear fission is not being pursued as an energy source?
In other words, without uranium being scarce and expensive, and with thorium being lumped in the same "nuclear" bucket (with all the political hurdles that implies), it doesn't make much economic sense to start over with thorium.