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Re: Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first

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Post by CamperBob2 »

burningChrome wrote: post #32
CamperBob2 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only question is whether motors or propellers will be banned for private sale first. (After drones themselves, of course.)

My first worry wouldn't be this. I got out of doing drone work because of all the FAA restrictions on where you can fly drones now. Within 30 miles of a major metro area? Nope. Within 20 miles of an airport? Nope. I'm exaggerating of course, but it got to a point where I was having real problems trying to find areas where you can fly a drone just for fun so I just gave up and quit. My more immediate fear would be how…

Jam what signal? You'd need a HERF gun to stop an autonomous drone -- a real one, not something made from recycled microwave oven parts -- and an EMP bomb of some sort to stop a swarm of them.

Re: Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first

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Post by jandrese »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #34
jandrese wrote: post #4

This is only a few days after the massive drone attack in Russia. Only a matter of time until we have drones smart enough to dodge bullets (or at least dodge out of where guns are pointing) while flying at breakneck speeds being controlled by AIs we don't fully understand. The tech industry is working hard to bring about the Terminator future.

Some of this stuff is getting to the point where we will seriously need to have a global talk on whether we should put a pin in this tech or not

As if the billionaires won't simply go "F that noise, more money for me!!!" Ethical concerns are way down the priority list for most AI focused companies.

Re: Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first

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Post by jolt42 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #34
jandrese wrote: post #4

This is only a few days after the massive drone attack in Russia. Only a matter of time until we have drones smart enough to dodge bullets (or at least dodge out of where guns are pointing) while flying at breakneck speeds being controlled by AIs we don't fully understand. The tech industry is working hard to bring about the Terminator future.

Some of this stuff is getting to the point where we will seriously need to have a global talk on whether we should put a pin in this tech or not

why? if nuclear weapons got the green light, do you expect a different outcome?

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

jandrese wrote: post #4

This is only a few days after the massive drone attack in Russia. Only a matter of time until we have drones smart enough to dodge bullets (or at least dodge out of where guns are pointing) while flying at breakneck speeds being controlled by AIs we don't fully understand. The tech industry is working hard to bring about the Terminator future.

yeesh. i made this comparison once and HN told me that campy action movies are bad to base policy on :\

Re: Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first

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Post by sveinatle »

I remember being blown away by a TED talk were "minimum snap trajectories" are planned for quadcopters to fly through hoops and slots.

It's really cool to see this happening fully autonomously and at such high speed. I wonder if the use of AI means that the approach is fundamentally different, or if it uses the same principle of minimizing snap?

https://www.ted.com/talks/vijay_kumar_robots_that_fly_and_co...

Re: Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first

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Post by HenryBemis »

generalizations wrote: post #29
bri3d wrote: post #26

This is quite cool since past efforts in this direction have usually relied on crutches like outside-in imaging and positioning. A few details I picked up: * The drones are a spec drone across the league. It's a fairly large-footprint FPV racing drone (it's a 5" propped drone, but it's very stretched out and quite heavy) with both a Betaflight flight controller and a Jetson Orin NX onboard. Teams were only allowed an…

From near the bottom: > One of the core new elements of the drone’s AI is the use of a deep neural network that doesn’t send control commands to a traditional human controller, but directly to the motors.

I assume that they shave off milliseconds by doing so, and a gyroscope (or similar) sends back the position/angle of the drone. And like this does it bypass the 'limited' onboard computer and instead uses a much better/faster computer?

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Post by switchbak »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #34
jandrese wrote: post #4

This is only a few days after the massive drone attack in Russia. Only a matter of time until we have drones smart enough to dodge bullets (or at least dodge out of where guns are pointing) while flying at breakneck speeds being controlled by AIs we don't fully understand. The tech industry is working hard to bring about the Terminator future.

Some of this stuff is getting to the point where we will seriously need to have a global talk on whether we should put a pin in this tech or not

I'm sure that everyone would agree on that, and that $bad_actor wouldn't take advantage of the fact that everyone else had agreed to lay down their arms. Game theory sucks, but it's hard to get around.

Re: Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first

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Post by AlienRobot »

jolt42 wrote: post #43
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of this stuff is getting to the point where we will seriously need to have a global talk on whether we should put a pin in this tech or not

why? if nuclear weapons got the green light, do you expect a different outcome?

Because nuclear weapons got the green light.
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