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Re: Canonicals Interview Process

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. I rarely saw this usage before, hence the question

It's been standard conversational English since the 1300s.

No, it was not standard conversational English to use the third person plural to refer to a known individual man or woman. It has been used to refer to a non-specific person.

Re: Canonicals Interview Process

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post #57

> I got three "strong yes", eight "yes", and a single "no" from Mark Shuttleworth Mark interviews are always the last in the process but since they’re the only ones that carry an automatic fail despite all other interviewer scores, they should be done first.

There's some weird twisted kind of logic here: Shuttleworth probably sees it as the other interviewers' job to weed out candidates so that he doesn't have to spend as much of his time interviewing candidates. It's a total waste in terms of man-hours spent interviewing, but it means Shuttleworth himself spends less time interviewing.

Obvious to me this is a classic boss battle.

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The "top 10%" thing doesn't make sense mathematically. That depends on the average performance of your classmates. If you were in a school with brilliant students, in a small class, you could be in the top 50%. But with the same performance, just attending a different (low performing) school could put you in the top 5%.

So, keeping performance constant, attending a lower-performing school gives you a higher chance of being accepted at canonical. How crazy is that?

Re: Canonicals Interview Process

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post #74

The "top 10%" thing doesn't make sense mathematically. That depends on the average performance of your classmates. If you were in a school with brilliant students, in a small class, you could be in the top 50%. But with the same performance, just attending a different (low performing) school could put you in the top 5%. So, keeping performance constant, attending a lower-performing school gives you a higher chance of…

It is crazy. I believe their thinking though is that people have different opportunities, so you should have basically risen to the top at whatever place you were. Yes it is nonsense!

Re: Canonicals Interview Process

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post #74

The "top 10%" thing doesn't make sense mathematically. That depends on the average performance of your classmates. If you were in a school with brilliant students, in a small class, you could be in the top 50%. But with the same performance, just attending a different (low performing) school could put you in the top 5%. So, keeping performance constant, attending a lower-performing school gives you a higher chance of…

It is crazy. I believe their thinking though is that people have different opportunities, so you should have basically risen to the top at whatever place you were. Yes it is nonsense!

The fact that you'd use that number to automatically disqualify candidates is just insane. It doesn't give you a globally objective measure of a person's performance, because, like I stated, it depends on the competition in their particular group.

I could objectively be better at math than John from another school. But MY school is extremely competitive, so I'm probably in top 20%. But John doesn't have much competition in his school, so he might be in the top 10% in HIS school. But your system will reject me because I'm in the top 20%, and probably accept John because he's in the top 10%. Total absurdity!

Re: Canonicals Interview Process

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I am fascinated at how this has actually lasted so long without imploding the place - did Mark stop being a cheapskate on salary so people will tolerate this process? Or is it just banking on their good name and mostly getting to work on free software?

By all accounts it’s a great place to work, but not a great place to apply for work …

Certainly not all accounts. Certainly not from those of us who were there when the fun early days turned into the painful “Mark berates people in public” days. Certainly not those who were there in the more recent era where stack ranking style behaviours appeared.

Canonical people can be great to work with, but it is certainly not a great place to work.

Re: Canonicals Interview Process

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post #72
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's some weird twisted kind of logic here: Shuttleworth probably sees it as the other interviewers' job to weed out candidates so that he doesn't have to spend as much of his time interviewing candidates. It's a total waste in terms of man-hours spent interviewing, but it means Shuttleworth himself spends less time interviewing.

Obvious to me this is a classic boss battle.

Obviously Mark just wants someone to challenge him to a good old round of differentiating high school calculus functions or perhaps some 3D star-trek chess, then he knows you're an intelligent gentleman worthy of Canonical.

Re: Canonicals Interview Process

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post #39

> I got three "strong yes", eight "yes", and a single "no" from Mark Shuttleworth Mark interviews are always the last in the process but since they’re the only ones that carry an automatic fail despite all other interviewer scores, they should be done first.

An interview process that allows a single individual to have absolute veto power over multiple prior interview evaluators is, pretty obviously, broken.

Nah, it's working as intended. The whole point of a CEO (boss) is to have veto power.
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