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Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by tristan957 »

redwood wrote: post #23
chachra wrote: post #2

Bummer that all the postgres serverless providers are getting acquired. First Neon, now this. Hope the innovation and competitive pricing continues!

There's still Xata. And plenty of other options that support a Postgres compatible API like CockroachDB and Yugabyte. The problem is there's so much sprawl in this postgres ecosystem that it seems like no one other than the hyperscalers is really able to reach a escape velocity...

Yugabyte is Postgres from my understanding. They recently rebased from 12 to 15, I think.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by smohare »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #12
markus_zhang wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a DE, I have an unpopular disdain of Snowflake because it trivalize a lot of stuffs. I think I'm going to switch to OLTP given the chance.

Right there with you. Developed my disdain after having to put up with the incredibly shitty behaviour from the sales and account teams a few years ago. Sure they had some novelty years ago, but everyone and their dog has disaggregated compute these days, and all their other “feature” just feel like enterprise money extraction that they’ve acquihired in. Expensive, slow, and painful.

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Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by tristan957 »

brightball wrote: post #26
candiddevmike wrote: post #4

> Part of the reason Snowflake and Databricks are interested in database companies is because PostgreSQL can serve as the underlying database for customers to create AI agents with data they store in the companies’ respective platforms. I don't understand this part. What does PostgreSQL offer here that these vendors believe they can't add to their existing platform? Is it the ecosystem?

Crunchydata is an excellent vendor and a purist in the ecosystem. The Crunchydata Warehouse product was also extremely compelling. It’s probably worth it just for their people.

Crunchy has some really smart people working there. Maybe most notably Tom Lane. I wonder if he'll stay on after the acquisition.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by compton93 »

buremba wrote: post #28

It's interesting that Snowflake went shopping for Crunchy Data over Neon. While Neon focused on bringing compute and storage separation to OLTP, Crunchy Data focused more on bringing OLTP/PostgreSQL closer to OLAP with DuckDB and Iceberg. In a way, Crunch Data was a competitor to Snowflake as they literally name themselves as "Postgresql Data Warehouse" but correct me if I'm wrong. Neon sounds more complementary to S…

> literally name themselves as "Postgresql Data Warehouse" but correct me if I'm wrong

That's not their primary product. Crunchy Postgres is their primary offering and they recently announced Crunchy Data Warehouse.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by skeeter2020 »

9283409232 wrote: post #18
kwillets wrote: post #7

Snowflake is becoming the Juicero of data.

If you can afford it, I have a hard time coming up with reasons to not use Snowflake.

One good reason is that a huge population of companies just don't have enough data to justify Snowflake. We sell a product built on it, and I wish we'd had DuckDB 3-4 years ago; it's perfect for 95%+ of our clients

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by buremba »

compton93 wrote: post #35
buremba wrote: post #28

It's interesting that Snowflake went shopping for Crunchy Data over Neon. While Neon focused on bringing compute and storage separation to OLTP, Crunchy Data focused more on bringing OLTP/PostgreSQL closer to OLAP with DuckDB and Iceberg. In a way, Crunch Data was a competitor to Snowflake as they literally name themselves as "Postgresql Data Warehouse" but correct me if I'm wrong. Neon sounds more complementary to S…

> literally name themselves as "Postgresql Data Warehouse" but correct me if I'm wrong That's not their primary product. Crunchy Postgres is their primary offering and they recently announced Crunchy Data Warehouse.

I thought Crunchy Data Warehouse was their main product, looking at most of their marketing posts. What's the advantage of using their managed PostgreSQL offering on the cloud, compared to native offerings such as AWS RDS and GCP Cloud SQL?

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by 9283409232 »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #36
9283409232 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can afford it, I have a hard time coming up with reasons to not use Snowflake.

One good reason is that a huge population of companies just don't have enough data to justify Snowflake. We sell a product built on it, and I wish we'd had DuckDB 3-4 years ago; it's perfect for 95%+ of our clients

I think DuckDB is great but I don't think it is necessarily playing the same game as Snowflake. A lot of people want the serverless option and DuckDB is not that.

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by throwaway314155 »

dmurray wrote: post #32
chachra wrote: post #2

Bummer that all the postgres serverless providers are getting acquired. First Neon, now this. Hope the innovation and competitive pricing continues!

If everyone in this sector is getting lucrative acquisitions, that should encourage more copycats.

I feel like the history of anti-trust regulation in America has something to say about that...

Re: Snowflake to buy Crunchy Data for $250M

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Post by redwood »

tristan957 wrote: post #31
redwood wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's still Xata. And plenty of other options that support a Postgres compatible API like CockroachDB and Yugabyte. The problem is there's so much sprawl in this postgres ecosystem that it seems like no one other than the hyperscalers is really able to reach a escape velocity...

Yugabyte is Postgres from my understanding. They recently rebased from 12 to 15, I think.

I thought they were slowly closing the car in terms of capabilities
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