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If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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post #81

“ I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental cla…

It's almost like you could create a 2 x 2 matrix of Useful Vs Valued - Not Useful, Not Valued: Get good or change jobs/industries. - Not Useful, Valued: talks a good game (or is doing useful stuff that is not apparent) -Useful, Not Valued: Could be useful at non-strategic stuff, or does good work without self-marketing, or has bad management and needs to leave. - Useful, Valued: Ideal situation.

> does good work without self-marketing

I kinda feel called out. My work should speak for itself. It often does, but I will always forget it when it comes time to speak of myself nicely.

I simply do not care to self-promote. It feels vain and vanity is one of the most useless things possible to me. Donald Trump is about 98% vanity, if you want to see what vanity is.

Not being able to actually cite the things I’ve done to someone who already knows what those things are has cost me several promotions, though. I can do the work, I can forecast needs, be ready for them, and solve them before they arrive, but because I don’t self-promote, people who can’t shut up about themselves get promoted beyond me.

Now that I’ve typed all that out, I am remembering just how many times this has happened, and now twenty minutes into the week and I am 100% misanthropic. People suck.

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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“ I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental cla…

In reality it’s more like a line graph with stupid to clever on the Y axis, and lazy to hardworking on the X axis.

Yeah that general doesn't seem too clever

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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“ I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental cla…

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Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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I used to recognize this at my last job, pay was good but left searching for other opportunities where I felt valued in a team. Two years later and I've about burned through all my savings looking for any job at all. Seems like current market has decided my skills and connections are not enough. Fixing to just uber or something next month out of desperation. I used to make six figures. Turns out I decided to quit at…

Don't beat yourself up over what amounts to luck. You could just as easily have remained where you were and later been caught up in a layoff.

By definition risks don't always go your way.

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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Isn't being incredibly useful actually a pretty solid way to be valued, especially in the trenches? Maybe 'useful' is just 'valued' in work boots instead of a fancy suit.

It should be, but the cold, hard meritocracy just doesn't exist, so you need to combine your useful work with soft skills to have your work valued

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Useful can means many things. A scapegoat is useful, for example.

Not useful to the person being shit on for no fault of their own...

Of course, but that’s my point. You may be useful, but that’s not always good.

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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post #81

“ I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental cla…

It's almost like you could create a 2 x 2 matrix of Useful Vs Valued - Not Useful, Not Valued: Get good or change jobs/industries. - Not Useful, Valued: talks a good game (or is doing useful stuff that is not apparent) -Useful, Not Valued: Could be useful at non-strategic stuff, or does good work without self-marketing, or has bad management and needs to leave. - Useful, Valued: Ideal situation.

turns out the consulting firms stole from the german army

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

#128
post #2

water is useful. Diamond is valued. So be the diamond, not the water. Unless there's no water around anymore...

The title is a false dichotomy; you should be both, if you're only valued but not useful you're part of this echelon of seat fillers who get fired at layoff rounds to cut costs.

Usually the valued ones are in charge of hiring and firing.

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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post #60

“ I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental cla…

I worked as a small elite unit in a world leading airline, team of about 5 poeple that went down to basically 1 ( after I was finally labelled as "difficult to work with" - ( I actually was always quiet calm friendly used to working in critical teams and worked basically close to 12 hour days. Eventually a deadline was missed and "someone had to be blamed". Having worked in countless companies I was ready for this an…

...the polite quiet well meaning, happy, working, well adjusted polite English gentleman...

You need to watch out for those, speaking as one myself. We did run an empire once and not by being nice. Have a look at George Orwell's short pieces set in Burmah (now Myanmar).

Re: If you are useful, it doesn't mean you are valued

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“ I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental cla…

Thank you for posting this. Someone had told me this and attributed it to Clausewitz - so I've never been able to track it down. I've used it to make the case that laziness is not always a bad thing - i.e. lazy people find it easier to delegate.
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