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Cinematography of “Andor”

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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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For quite a while, the further the films/series are separated from the original trilogy, the better they seem to be.

Ironically Andor is one of the closest to A New Hope narratively.

It ties in but isn't really part of the main storyline except incidentally. You could say the same thing about Rogue One though the tie-in is even stronger in that case. The Mandalorian is pretty separate other than baby yoda.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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You guys are excluding the George Lucas movies from discussion right? In my opinion nothing ever came even close and I gave up on SW after the second Kylo Ren movie. Rouge one was cool though, also first episodes of Mandalorian.. Should I really try Andor after all the bad stuff Disney made? A few days ago I watched the new LILO and Stitch and that was great, so maybe good people still work at Disney …

I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan, fell in love as a young kid. I remember being in 8th grade and being so excited for the prequels, and then walking out of the theater after Ep. 1 and feeling like something was just... wrong. I knew that it was junk, and not the Star Wars I fell in love with. And from there it was pretty much further and further downhill, with occasional glimpses of hope that were quickly dashed. I tried…

I actually greatly prefer the prequels to the original trilogy. I suspect it has to do with the fact that I was a child when episode 1 came out and I was still a child when the prequels concluded.

A big part of the problem is that these movies were written, basically, for 12-year old boys. You're not going to be able to get that spark back as an adult, and it's not easy to make a movie that appeals so strongly to both demographics. And much like wu-tang, star wars (and other fun stories) is for the children. Andor is at least more adult-oriented, I think.

So, do I like the new movies? No, I literally slept through the last two they were so boring, and I found the lack of coherent plot baffling. And yes, it does make me a little sad. But seeing little girls dressed up like Rey, I'm reminded that there are better things for me to care about.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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The cinematography, editing, writing, and overall feel of this show far exceed any Star Wars movie I've seen. I had long since written off the Star Wars franchise as a shameless cash grab since the original movies but they proved they could do something cool with it. I'd definitely watch a new movie if it were handled by the same team that made Andor. Prequel, sequel, side story, or re-telling of the originals.

Loved Andor. Unlikely Gilroy would do more Star Wars and if he did, he probably wouldn’t be given another $650M for a side character. Season 2 was $290 and that was after their budget was capped by Iger, they tried to spend more.

Source: https://screenrant.com/andor-budget-confirmed/

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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For quite a while, the further the films/series are separated from the original trilogy, the better they seem to be.

The first sequel just mirroring the original movie was so lame. Reference-baiting.

It's probably hard for the producers not to do fan service. But they can go overboard.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Your pedantry probably requires a rewatch. I also think "masterpiece" is a heavy term to throw around but the emotional impact of the this series and the complexity of its narrative as it catalogs a hero's journey from reluctant participant to true believer with an epic story arc can be held up next to most film and historical epics like Laurence of Arabia, Ben Hur, The Matrix, the Original Star Wars trilogy, Dune, K…

A masterpiece does not require an enormous story, theme or anything else "epic". That is a characteristic of blockbusters.

My point was to make that distinction between an masterpiece and an epic while still showing that Andor holds up against some of the most celebrated epics ever created. Comparing it to My Cousin Vinny is ridiculous. You should be comparing it to other works in the same form, other epic hero's journeys.

Was your gripe about superfluous scenes, where you mentioned the forest planet, a reference to the first few episodes of season 2? That forest plant is Yavin IV, the plant where the rebels eventually build their first base, and those rebels are some of the first recruits to the rebel army. I believe those scenes were intended to show how the rebellion lacked leadership and how Andor and others had to step up to provide that leadership.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Andor is OK. I didn't manage to finish the first season though and there are a few scenes - like the "training to blend in" - that are just totally corny and just seem "cheap".

I disagree with the sentiment that Andor goes beyond the original trilogy. The world building in the originals is incredible.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

#108
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For quite a while, the further the films/series are separated from the original trilogy, the better they seem to be.

Ironically Andor is one of the closest to A New Hope narratively.

You could have the exact same story on a completely different universe, without using any of the Star Wars IP by doing only superficial adjustments.

But also yes, it's the closest thing to the original theme since the second movie.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Perhaps your cautionary admonishments are unwarranted in this specific scenario. It is logical enough to conclude that a story ending in two intelligence agents flying off for a time-sensitive meeting with a confidential informant, is an immediate prequel to the story that begins with the same two intelligence agents landing and meeting that confidential informant. This is not quite the same situation as the end of R…

>>> This is not quite the same situation as the end of Rogue One and A New Hope, where some people make the argument that Rogue One ends just a few minutes before ANH begins; I am not convinced by that argument, although the cinematography certain seems to be leading us there. The ending scene of RO is the data handoff and narrow escape of the Tantive IV with Leia, R2-D2, and C-3PO on it. How is that not a direct con…

Unless there was some sort of tractor beam, the Tantive IV did, in fact, escape, and may have been able to jump to light speed. In such an event, any eventual recapture by the Star Destroyer and battle with Vader's boarding team would have looked exactly the same as the escape sequence. There's nothing definitively saying "and they were recaptured within a few minutes of their initial escape."
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