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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by meowface »

reimertz wrote: post #16
sgt wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, a Rogue One sequel movie. So it'll be a continuation of the Andor series. They really take their time filming this kinda stuff so don't hold your breath.

Sorry but I would flag this as AI-generated unless you can provide a reference.

The user definitely is not AI but I think they may've misread something or fell for a meme/joke they saw.

There indeed is absolutely no planned sequel to or continuation of Andor, nor currently any known plans for the creator of it to create anything else in this franchise. I'd sure like it if he did, though.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by meowface »

ghaff wrote: post #6
meowface wrote: post #3

The cinematography, editing, writing, and overall feel of this show far exceed any Star Wars movie I've seen. I had long since written off the Star Wars franchise as a shameless cash grab since the original movies but they proved they could do something cool with it. I'd definitely watch a new movie if it were handled by the same team that made Andor. Prequel, sequel, side story, or re-telling of the originals.

For quite a while, the further the films/series are separated from the original trilogy, the better they seem to be.

The first sequel just mirroring the original movie was so lame. Reference-baiting.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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meowface wrote: post #3

The cinematography, editing, writing, and overall feel of this show far exceed any Star Wars movie I've seen. I had long since written off the Star Wars franchise as a shameless cash grab since the original movies but they proved they could do something cool with it. I'd definitely watch a new movie if it were handled by the same team that made Andor. Prequel, sequel, side story, or re-telling of the originals.

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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by sandworm101 »

sgt wrote: post #4

Andor is a masterpiece. I recommend everyone to see it. Season 1 is probably the best, but season 2 just continues the brilliance. Unfortunately there won't be a season 3 though - they're making a final movie.

>> Andor is a masterpiece.

No. A masterpiece would not have any fluff. There are all number of scenes/characters that could be cut from Andor without any real impact. Entire scenes and characters could be dropped without impacting the narrative. (The entire forest planet sequence imho.)

Andor is a product of the "for your consideration" form of review made popular by the Academy (oscars). Each scene is excellent. Each scene is a cinematic tour de force. But they are all independent scenes. Rearrange the order, shuffle the scene deck, and little changes as the scenes are not dependent on each other. The overall narrative is thin. That may make for good/popular television but it is not deserving of "masterpiece".

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by mkesper »

nicoburns wrote: post #7
sandworm101 wrote: post #2

>> But at the same time, I’m so happy that the digital revolution happened. It’s a bigger toolbox for your creativity, especially for night scenes. It’s much easier to light something natural, and to do something with less. No. This is why everything is so dark. With film, cinematographers had to hedge their bets. They could not risk a scene being too dark, something they would not be sure of until the film was devel…

I definitely have this problem a lot with modern TV. Full screen brightness and it's still hard to make out the details. Perhaps they're targeting HDR screens that have more dynamic range?

Had this when playing streams from PC to TV. Had to increase gamma a whole lot, just increasing brightness does not really help.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by meowface »

nicoburns wrote: post #5

If you haven't watched Andor and you are at all open to sci-fi then I would urge you to consider giving a go. The writing, acting, and cinematography are all excellent, and IMO it is a very strong contender for the best TV show released in the last few years.

It makes me wish it were the actual start of the franchise and then they made Rogue One and the trilogy de novo. In that counterfactual I think there's a good shot it'd be far better than the originals, and the Star Wars story would be considered not just a classic but a masterpiece. (I don't think the original trilogy is bad exactly, but the trilogy with the Andor look/feel/style/writing/acting could've been some of the best films ever.)

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by iainmerrick »

meowface wrote: post #3

The cinematography, editing, writing, and overall feel of this show far exceed any Star Wars movie I've seen. I had long since written off the Star Wars franchise as a shameless cash grab since the original movies but they proved they could do something cool with it. I'd definitely watch a new movie if it were handled by the same team that made Andor. Prequel, sequel, side story, or re-telling of the originals.

Yeah, it’s honestly hard to find a weak element. The actors are all great, the music is great (with an interesting progression from electronic to orchestral), the set design is incredible. It’s both timeless and topical.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by mcv »

meowface wrote: post #15
cwillu wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're aware of Rogue One, right?

I watched it for the first time immediately after finishing Andor. Definitely better than the other Star Wars films but definitely not as good as Andor. (I'm aware the showrunner of Andor co-wrote Rogue One, but Andor really seems like a different tier.)

Andor is by far the best Star Wars. Rogue One is very good, and the only movie that's in the same league as the originals, but Andor is so much better.

I don't think we'll see anything on the same level as Andor again; they already cut the original plans from 5 seasons to 2; it's simply too expensive and costs too much time to do it this well. But I do hope that future Star Wars shows will try to follow at least some aspects of its example: better writing, more human stories, focus on core themes, not on fan service or milking established characters.

Of course production values will be lower, but I can live with that if they get the other stuff right.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by mcv »

sgt wrote: post #12
cwillu wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beyond rogue one?

Yes, a Rogue One sequel movie. So it'll be a continuation of the Andor series. They really take their time filming this kinda stuff so don't hold your breath.

I would love a series of movies that run parallel to the original trilogy, but in the style of Andor, following the dirty ground work of the rebellion, rather than its handful of shining heroes.
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