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What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

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Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

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I am curious about how this compares to past years.

I was pretty shocked that of 275 companies in the Winter 2023 batch, only 12 have received Series A deals. Granted, I know a huge part of that is that the VC environment has just collapsed due to the end of the ZIRP era, but those numbers at least sound pretty brutal to me.

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

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post #18

a) The next two years are the reckoning for a lot of these AI startups. In the enterprise space everyone was being pushed to trial AI products to see whether they can deliver the ROI that was being marketed. Newsflash: it hasn't. And many of these startups will see serious churn. b) Everyone needs to stop perpetuating the YC lie that they invest in the best founders and they just happen to want to do AI. It's rubbish…

Other than the "request for startups" YC publishes YC doesn't push founders to start a specific type of business. AI is simply where the opportunity is (or is perceived to be). YC (and everybody else) understands that most AI enterprise startups will fail, as you point out. The gamble, as always, is that a few startups in the current batch will get huge.

They dont push founders but surely they allocate more on AI startups, so founders put the magic word X with AI or AI Driven in their products for the same reason

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

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post #18

a) The next two years are the reckoning for a lot of these AI startups. In the enterprise space everyone was being pushed to trial AI products to see whether they can deliver the ROI that was being marketed. Newsflash: it hasn't. And many of these startups will see serious churn. b) Everyone needs to stop perpetuating the YC lie that they invest in the best founders and they just happen to want to do AI. It's rubbish…

Other than the "request for startups" YC publishes YC doesn't push founders to start a specific type of business. AI is simply where the opportunity is (or is perceived to be). YC (and everybody else) understands that most AI enterprise startups will fail, as you point out. The gamble, as always, is that a few startups in the current batch will get huge.

> YC doesn't push founders to start a specific type of business

Of course it does.

Founders look at YC batches, see that it is 99% AI companies and are then forced to also go in that direction if they want the benefits of the accelerated YC path.

And YC deliberately chooses founders with AI companies because they have an investment thesis that is different from "request for startups". Garry Tan has been a massive e/acc fanboy since the beginning and genuinely believes that AI in every use case will advance humanity. And the partners all align with this.

This is all inarguable because amongst the tens of thousands of applications there are surely many amazing non-AI companies. Is this implication that they are all worse than what was selected in the batch ?

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

#44

Do "AI Startups" even make sense? There appears to be a pattern. Unmet need is identified: "I want ChatGPT -- but able to read PDFs" or "I want ChatGPT -- but able to do research and produce lengthy reports." Startup gets funding for this and, if they're lucky, releases a rough beta that leans heavily on the OpenAI API. Two months later OpenAI launches a better, much more polished and seamless version, which is integ…

Its a good point and it comes back to why Google can't take up projects that other startups are working on. Google has all the technical infrastructure, talent and everything to make something like AirBnB, Docusign and hell even intellij. Why not?

Because of a mix of comparative advantage and opportunity cost. Google as an entity absolutely dwarfs those other companies, and competes at that scale. Airbnb’s annual revenues are lower than Googles annual r&d spend. Google’s “wins” need to move the needle on a $2tn valuation, and an Airbnb size win doesn’t do that.

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

#45

YC is going all-in on a technology with no proven business value, driven mostly by ideological desire. It might prove to be their downfall.

didn't YC research fund OpenAI itself?

Yes. And now they have a massive vested interest in drawing startups into the space.

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

#46
>Zero LLM evaluation, observability, or tooling companies in the Series-A data.

What does he/she mean by tooling in this context?

Later section talks about developer tools so not that by the sounds of it. So tooling around inference maybe? Pretty sure ollama is in YC and that's surely "tooling"?

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

#47

YC is going all-in on a technology with no proven business value, driven mostly by ideological desire. It might prove to be their downfall.

Is HN’s continual downplaying of AI’s impact and economic potential against all evidence just the new version of the mentality that precipitated the famous Dropbox comment? The comments in anything AI related on this website are so predictable

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

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Do "AI Startups" even make sense? There appears to be a pattern. Unmet need is identified: "I want ChatGPT -- but able to read PDFs" or "I want ChatGPT -- but able to do research and produce lengthy reports." Startup gets funding for this and, if they're lucky, releases a rough beta that leans heavily on the OpenAI API. Two months later OpenAI launches a better, much more polished and seamless version, which is integ…

I think it absolutely makes sense. ChatGPT's strength is how generalised it is as a tool, but openAI will never able to adapt the platform to every single use case. You can absolutely use it to learn a language for instance, but a great AI language learning platform needs a better tailored UI, it needs all kinds of non-AI functionality around it like idk a spaced repetition system, it might need to integrate into other platforms, and good prompting to be effective. AI isn't the product itself, but a component to try to solve a problem. And honestly I wish more startups focused less on simply "AI" and more on the problems it should solve.

If for nothing else openAI won't be able to market itself for every single use case, and so long as people aren't using chatGPT for some use case (even if it could perform the task) there's still an opening.

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

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Do "AI Startups" even make sense? There appears to be a pattern. Unmet need is identified: "I want ChatGPT -- but able to read PDFs" or "I want ChatGPT -- but able to do research and produce lengthy reports." Startup gets funding for this and, if they're lucky, releases a rough beta that leans heavily on the OpenAI API. Two months later OpenAI launches a better, much more polished and seamless version, which is integ…

> going so far as to download the fulltext of every legal ruling ever made in the US -- something like 400GB Where can I find this?

PACER exists at the federal level. Otherwise you have to piece it together from each jurisdiction yourself, defeating any anti-scraping measures in the process. Unless someone happens to have made such a dataset available via torrent at some point?

Re: What's working for YC companies since the AI boom

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I don't want to sound like the infamous dropbox comment, but isn't Reducto just an LLM function call?

This was trickier 18 months ago, but every major LLM provider has solid support for this now. You can just drop an API call to Google, OpenAI, etc. your existing pipeline. What am I missing? Maybe the selling point was batch, but all LLM providers have a batch product now too.

    classification_response = requests.post(
        "https://platform.reducto.ai/extract",
        json={
            "document_url": f"jobid://{job_id}",
            "schema": {
                "type": "object",
                "properties": {
                    "document_type": {"type": "string", "enum": ["W2", "Passport", "Other"]}
                },
                "required": ["document_type"],
            },
        },
        headers=headers,
    )
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