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I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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No, because homosexual men tend not to compete with men for women’s attention.

Precisely. So a group of men, some or all of whom are gay, will react differently to the arrival of a woman than one in which all are straight.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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It’s not always location-agnostic, but you’re more likely to hear about location-agnostic efforts because they have further reach. For instance Men’s Sheds are a local effort with a thousand locations in the UK: > Men’s Sheds encourage people to come together to make, repair and repurpose, supporting projects in their local communities. Improving wellbeing, reducing loneliness and combatting social isolation. > Resea…

Why didn't they start Women's Sheds?

Oh, but why if they're having a functional clubs already?

I feel like men only spaces in the UK are frowned upon (see Garrick club narration). No matter the reason, the only way single sex spaces work here is women only.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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I like the idea in general principle - but if I lived in the right city/country, and didn't already have something similar, my first thought based on the landing page pictures would be; "This is only for white guys in their twenties." I don't know if that's intentional, but if I was in the location target market, I'd close the tab at that point.

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Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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Yeah, I've seen a lot on the "male loneliness epidemic" and I've been lonely myself sometimes but people framing it as a lack of spaces accepting of men is really confusing to me. Do people really think there's some dearth of clubs to join for men out that adding another one will make a difference?

Like I couldn't avoid being in clubs without fully dropping my hobbies. Martial arts is a good example of a generally pretty social space that's obviously very welcoming to men (I've recently been doing historical longsword fencing and there are a wide variety of weirdos successfully socializing in there) but I also do birdwatching with a group and volunteer at a wildlife rehabilitator and both of those are also pretty social.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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My mother, somewhere around 1976, told me that basically when men get married, they lose all their friends. But they get all their wife’s friends. Which seems prescient to me. Including their husbands, obviously.

I think most men do not maintain friendships unless there is some outside circumstances that keeps them in touch. School, work, church, clubs, or even just being neighbors. Without exception the people who were my closest friends in high school didn't really keep in touch when we all went off to college. The friendships I made in college did not persist after graduation. There's a guy at work I had lunch with almost…

You just wrote my biography. Incredible. My experience is nearly identical.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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This idea appears every once in awhile, as it’s obviously a major issue in modern life. The interesting thing though is how the solution is always location-agnostic. By that I mean it’s never really about a specific cafe or restaurant or soccer field, it’s always an app or service that organizes people to show up in various places. I bring this up because if you look at places that had lively social activities a few…

It's a matter of process: first exposure to many people, then filtering. That's how it works in school, work etc. Ideally one would plan to gather a ton of people in a crowded place, like a large concert or church.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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I recommend everyone watch the series Lodge 49. It's free to watch with ads now. Not only is a great show that touches on relationships and loneliness and modern alienation with a touch of magical realism and esoterica and alchemy but it focuses on a fraternal (in name only, women are members) order that your grandfather might have been a member of but have disappeared due to rising individualism, rising rents and di…

Soho House is pretty much the opposite of a high end exclusive club these days.

$3000 a year and expensive menu items is too much for most Americans. Those are not the price points that can address social alienation.

Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic

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Sometimes I wish we could have "gentlemen's clubs" of the sort that existed in Victorian Britain (not the US strip club version), third-spaces where one could go to read or converse or play cards with other men or even have a meal or a drink. Having social space that's limited to a set of people one knows, more or less, and that has rules on behavior seems like a civilizing influence that's missing today.

A billion dollar company started with this idea. Schultz envisioned Starbucks as a “third place” between home and work, fostering community and connection. https://mulcahyconsultants.com/2023/12/14/howard-schultz-and...

My local one removed all its seats and is now take out only.
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