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The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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The discussion in Polymarket revolves around the trustworthiness of the market creator and their resolution criteria. Any discussion here that doesn't consider those things is missing the forest for the trees. The market isn't really about Jesus. Jesus is just the engagement hook. It's the reason this post has 147+ comments on Hacker News and $500k+ in market transactions on Polymarket. There's very little stopping t…

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Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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> Statistics and wagering aside, IMO, he'd fair poorly (like the previous visit). If I remember correctly...his first visit was prophesied to end exactly as it did. His next visit is prophesied to be a little different - to paraphrase...he is coming with an army to make war on the beast and all [humans] who follow him. Instead of a spotless robe like earlier depictions - this robe is drenched in blood, and he has a s…

> I strongly encourage you all read this book(the bible) and take it to heart. You aren't my friend, or someone that I know - but it would give me no pleasure at all to know you were spending eternity in hell. IMO, you are also an elitist jerk by telling non-believers that they will be going to hell for not believing your religion, a religion which 69% of the entire world does not believe. What kind of god creates be…

Hey I don't know what works for everyone, but I know what works for me. I'm encouraging you to let it work for you, but that's a personal choice and I wouldn't force it on anyone.

I don't think God wants to "trick" anyone. I also don't believe there is any hard set of "rules" he applies to 100% of humanity without exception. Take little children for instance...tragedies happen every day, and they are too young to know what those rules are, or have a chance to follow them. Those children aren't destined for eternal torture - that would be cruel and heartless - and I don't believe God is cruel or heartless.

I apologize for coming off as an elitist jerk. I didn't realize it would be read that way, and it was not my intent at all. I'm not better than you, I don't /think/ I'm better than you, and I'm too inexperienced/ignorant/prideful to even be able to know what "better" is, much less which one of us it would apply to.

All my comments, posts, and intentions are that 1 person is positively influenced by them. Maybe they go on to influence someone else, and it spreads throughout people - I have no idea what will happen that is influenced by things like my post. However, I don't think my post is going to hurt anyone - my hope is that it will help someone. Think of it like throwing seeds(in the parable!)... some of them, maybe just /one/ of them, will fall in fertile ground - and lead that person(s) to the same peace with God that I feel.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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The discussion in Polymarket revolves around the trustworthiness of the market creator and their resolution criteria. Any discussion here that doesn't consider those things is missing the forest for the trees. The market isn't really about Jesus. Jesus is just the engagement hook. It's the reason this post has 147+ comments on Hacker News and $500k+ in market transactions on Polymarket. There's very little stopping t…

The article does mention those things. It doesn't consider them big factors. And "the market isn't really about Jesus" is the article's whole point!

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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You have faith that your choice is the right one!

There are approximately 10,000 religions in the world. What brain damage do I have to receive in order to believe that I have any realistic statistical chance of picking the right one?

you don't pick one at random. you pick one that makes sense. what makes sense for example is the positive impact a religion has on the world. which religion is doing the most good? that alone will narrow down the selection to a few dozen if that many. besides the good it does, another question could be: what makes sense to you? which religion has the better answers to explain the world in which we live in today? take the issues and questions that matter to you, and then look at the answers and see if they are satisfactory. keep searching until you find the answers you seek.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Yes you, presumably someone who is not a christian and has never read the bible, know better than billions of christians and the millions of people who've actually read the bible. I'm not religious, but this is a bad take.

“Socialist Jesus” is kind of a meme (or, maybe a blowback meme on Capitalist Jesus). But, he was apparently pretty into taking care of the poor, right?

Selling all you own and giving the money to the poor, even.

One thing Jesus was definitely not, was an optimizing utilitarian. He repeats in a dozen different ways in the Sermon on the Mount that people should do what is right, right now, and not worry about what's going to happen (worry about tomorrow, worry about what they will eat, what they will wear etc.)

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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After studying esoteric Christianity, here’s what I can work out rationally.

Jesus was understood as the incarnation of the logos (often translated as “word” but with a much deeper meeting). The logos was the emanation of the pure ineffable oneness — ie, logos is the “son” of god (the oneness). These ideas were worked out by the Jewish-platonic philosopher Philo of Alexandria (b. 50 BCE) and directly influenced early Christianity. The message of Jesus was that we are all part of the logos — and if we believe that, we have eternal life (since the logos is eternal).

Since the logos doesn’t die, it’s hard to say how it returns. But you know, I’m probably over thinking this prediction market

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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The elephant in the room is who controls/decides on the outcome. See https://decrypt.co/311634/polymarket-allegations-oracle-mani...

This is in no way unmentioned in the article! It doesn't consider this a big factor, but it absolutely mentions it.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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> idea that Christians are more "hateful, spiteful, and conceited" than the average non-Christian is

Not claimed by anyone you’re responding to.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Polymarket itself has a very strong incentive to offer interesting long odd bets, in the hopes that anyone bites.

They get the time value of your money.

And it makes the site more interesting. It's free PR.

It would be very surprising if they don't know this and are not taking advantage of the dynamic. It isn't even sketchy, nobody loses any value they didn't choose to lose.

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