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Most of these features have been used by countless C++ developers for the past decades -- I really don't see the point in adopting a language that's mostly C++ but without some of the warts. Either pick C++ or something like Rust.
C++ is fine, but it's insanely slow to compile.
I generally like C++, but I could trade anything to make it faster to compile, and most of the time, I just use a small subset of C++ that I feel okay with.
Interestingly there is also C2: http://c2lang.org
Anyone know the story behind Huly (which appears to be a company making a web-app mostly in node) sponsoring C3?
Most of these features have been used by countless C++ developers for the past decades -- I really don't see the point in adopting a language that's mostly C++ but without some of the warts. Either pick C++ or something like Rust.
the problem with picking C++ is that eventually you onboard someone who uses the warts in their code, and then the warts become like craft glitter.
Most of these features have been used by countless C++ developers for the past decades -- I really don't see the point in adopting a language that's mostly C++ but without some of the warts. Either pick C++ or something like Rust.
Personally when I initially learned C++ back in 1993, with Turbo C++ 1.0 for MS-DOS, I hardly saw a reason to further use C instead C++, other than being required to do so.
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There is also Odin: https://odin-lang.org/ Would be nice to have a list of these and comparisons
There is also C23 and at some point C2Y. C23 got typeof, constexpr constants, enums with underlying type, embed, auto, _BitInt, checked integers, new struct compatibility rules, bit constants, nullptr, initialization with {}, and various other improvements and cleanups. Modern C code - while still being simple - can look quite different than what people might be used to. C2Y already already got named loops, countof,…
This looks promising, but I wonder what advantages it has over Rust. Community support is very important for a programming language, and given that this is the first time I am hearing about this project, it still has some way to go. Edit: ABI compatibility & two way interop with C seems to be a pretty big selling point!
Rust is solving a different problem, that of safety over all else. C3 on the other hand is more akin to developer experience above all else.
If you find something that should be easier to do in C3, that's a bug.
> Don't misunderstand me - I love using foreach in other languages; the added syntax better expresses your intent, reducing logic errors. It did jump out at me as "this isn't C" though. Because it's not. The whole point of C is that you know exactly what's going on and it's relatively clear in the code itself. C++ hides logic in abstractions for the sake of convenience. This is a C++ thing. How does it know how to it…
This is a completely valid and reasonable argument; I don't understand why people are downvoting it.
Most of these features have been used by countless C++ developers for the past decades -- I really don't see the point in adopting a language that's mostly C++ but without some of the warts. Either pick C++ or something like Rust.
There are definitely advantages to simpler tools, you can streamline development and make people more productive quicker. Compare that scenario to C++ where you first have to agree the features you're allowing and then have to police that subset throughout on every PR.
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There is also C23 and at some point C2Y. C23 got typeof, constexpr constants, enums with underlying type, embed, auto, _BitInt, checked integers, new struct compatibility rules, bit constants, nullptr, initialization with {}, and various other improvements and cleanups. Modern C code - while still being simple - can look quite different than what people might be used to. C2Y already already got named loops, countof,…
What's the state of things regarding statement expressions? Are there any intentions of adding them? I think I've read Meneide make an offhand comment about that.