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The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by hatradiowigwam »

cozyman wrote: post #203
hatradiowigwam wrote: post #162

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"Religion" doesn't have the slightest thing to do with Jesus coming. Religion human thing. Jesus didn't say "go and spread religion to every man"...he said "go and spread the GOOD NEWS to every man". Religion is the word we use to describe how us human's have managed to twist and warp and misunderstand that good news. We use it for gate keeping: "sorry this event is for church members only". We use it to put down peo…

Jesus founded a church in Matthew 16. He literally said go forth and make disciples of all nations. I could go through scripture and demonstrate why almost every claim you said here is false, but you don't care about scripture, just emotion.

Churches are fine - there are endless letters and instructions to them in the scripture you mention. "Religion" is not the same word as church. If you feel compelled to "demonstrate why almost every claim you said..." etc, feel free - it's ok! Christianity is about mercy and compassion, and you mention "emotion" - that's absolutely true. I'm very emotional about it, because my message is an emotional one, and emotions were high when it was given to me. It's not going to end my little universe if you disagree, or make fun of, or try to embarrass me about it. My sincere hope is that you are happy, and that through "emotion" or any other medium, you make others around you happy.

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Post by hatradiowigwam »

tdb7893 wrote: post #194
hatradiowigwam wrote: post #154

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The message IS clear...but I don't see the same message as you. Solomon was /beyond/ rich. So was David. So were countless people that are destined for heaven(as in, Jesus describes them being in heaven in the new testament). Those people all did some things we can see and talk about - and possibly many things we did not see, do not know, and can not talk about. At the very least, those people we know are in/destined…

'I don't believe their being or not being rich is part of the calculus for "getting into heaven" as you said' -> I think viewing that some rich people go to heaven as Jesus not explicitly condemning rich people (which he clearly does multiple times) and not him showing the unlimited power of God's grace is a misreading of the text. The subsequent verses are much less quoted but very explicit about this: And looking a…

> God wants us to love each other like he loves us, and he would certainly give up his money for us since he even gave up his own son, but accepts that we will be more selfish than that.

I love how you put that, and wholeheartedly agree.

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Post by josephcsible »

dangus wrote: post #213
hatradiowigwam wrote: post #131

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> Statistics and wagering aside, IMO, he'd fair poorly (like the previous visit). If I remember correctly...his first visit was prophesied to end exactly as it did. His next visit is prophesied to be a little different - to paraphrase...he is coming with an army to make war on the beast and all [humans] who follow him. Instead of a spotless robe like earlier depictions - this robe is drenched in blood, and he has a s…

> I strongly encourage you all read this book(the bible) and take it to heart. You aren't my friend, or someone that I know - but it would give me no pleasure at all to know you were spending eternity in hell. IMO, you are also an elitist jerk by telling non-believers that they will be going to hell for not believing your religion, a religion which 69% of the entire world does not believe. What kind of god creates be…

> IMO, you are also an elitist jerk by telling non-believers that they will be going to hell for not believing your religion, a religion which 69% of the entire world does not believe.

Catholics don't believe that you have to be Catholic to go to heaven. In fact, believing that you do is explicitly condemned as a heresy (Feeneyism).

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Post by lovich »

guywithahat wrote: post #209
delfinom wrote: post #64

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Yes you, presumably someone who is not a christian and has never read the bible, know better than billions of christians and the millions of people who've actually read the bible. I'm not religious, but this is a bad take.

I read their comment as more of a critique on the actions of the "true" believers, not a critique of anything Jesus would do

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Post by dragonwriter »

zajio1am wrote: post #224
delfinom wrote: post #64

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Never heard about Jesus pleading for 'seizing means of production'. I heard it was more like 'Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s'.

> Never heard about Jesus pleading for 'seizing means of production'.

This is something he has in common with many of the people that modern dominant (in the US, at least) political groups condemn for "socialism".

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Post by achierius »

jayGlow wrote: post #189
teachrdan wrote: post #178

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> You may not directly see him, but the whole school would know about it, even if he was just there for 5 minutes. My question would be: If the Bible was written by an omniscient and all-powerful God, then why does it have so many inaccuracies in it? Easy ones include a global flood that killed every animal on Earth. (Except for the two of each animal on Noah's ark, which would have overheated with so many animals in…

Christians don't belive the Bible was written by God they belive it's the word of God. the inconsistencies and contradictions are because its been written by many people over hundreds of years.

They don't even believe it's the word of God, strictly -- Jesus is the Word of God, the Bible merely contains (in parts) the word of God as reported by men. This is a key distinction between Christian and Islamic theology.

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Post by jihadjihad »

thatjoeoverthr wrote: post #191

If Jesus returned, people wouldn't believe it unanimously; it would be a scissor like everything else. (I don't even want to give examples.) Conversely, if Jesus has not returned, some people can be convinced that he has. Which brings me to the criteria. What are acceptable criteria? Maybe, "will a plurality of people believe that Jesus has returned in 2025?" Eschatological cults routinely convince small numbers of f…

> Given the above, could 2025 be the year of Deep Fake Jesus?

It does make one think, at least.

"Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many."

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Post by plorg »

guywithahat wrote: post #209
delfinom wrote: post #64

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Yes you, presumably someone who is not a christian and has never read the bible, know better than billions of christians and the millions of people who've actually read the bible. I'm not religious, but this is a bad take.

>Yes you, presumably someone who is not a christian and has never read the bible...

> I'm not religious, but this is a bad take.

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