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The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

zchrykng wrote: post #117
wat10000 wrote: post #90

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There’s “science doesn’t adequately explain the origins of the universe,” and then there’s “this particular middle eastern tribe had the right answers thousands of years ago.” I can see the former but the latter makes no sense.

Unless God actually exists and revealed himself to them. Obviously, you are free to not believe that, but believing that goes along with believing what you are dismissing.

He revealed himself to them and only them, ignoring the rest of humanity all over the globe. In all the universe he chose just earth for his people, and over all of earth, he just chose a tiny section to reveal himself to. Omniscient and omnipotent but a very human scale for his messaging.

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Post by hatradiowigwam »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #17
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"Religion" doesn't have the slightest thing to do with Jesus coming. Religion human thing. Jesus didn't say "go and spread religion to every man"...he said "go and spread the GOOD NEWS to every man".

Religion is the word we use to describe how us human's have managed to twist and warp and misunderstand that good news. We use it for gate keeping: "sorry this event is for church members only". We use it to put down people based on their behavior: "He seems like he needs religion". We use it to interfere with the law of the land: "Sorry, that law doesn't apply because of religious freedoms". And so on....

I don't think the big man gives one fiddly flying fig leaf about "religion". His son said(over, and over, and over!) that "I desire mercy, not sacrifice.". That means NOT excluding people over religion, insulting or belittling them with religion, or creating an unfair situation with "religious freedoms" in law. He wants MERCY.... that means instead of telling the beggar that religion would help him get clothed, fed, and generally happy - you should be giving him or her your clothes, sharing your food or drink, and welcoming them to your home where they can be safe. Will they abuse your trust? Who knows - and it's not important - your mercy to them was the critical action. You don't get into heaven for being discerning and clever...there is no award for actions like "I didn't invite him home, because he looked like a criminal and I don't trust him...". That's not mercy, that's you finding a human excuse to ignore the least of your brethren.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by msgodel »

scarmig wrote: post #59
wslh wrote: post #37

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Jokes aside, it would be interesting to see if the people betting "yes" are also placing predictions on events after 2025 since truly believing in Christ's return that year should make many irrelevant.

You'd still want to hedge.

I've tried to explain this to people before. Polymarket's contracts aren't purely poles for people's predictions, some people just want to be long volatility for any number of reasons.

The recent doge tax refund is a good example. If you want to be guaranteed payment you could bet on no even if you think it's a coinflip.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by ecocentrik »

The discussion in Polymarket revolves around the trustworthiness of the market creator and their resolution criteria. Any discussion here that doesn't consider those things is missing the forest for the trees. The market isn't really about Jesus. Jesus is just the engagement hook. It's the reason this post has 147+ comments on Hacker News and $500k+ in market transactions on Polymarket. There's very little stopping the market creator from citing a guineapig pet lovers blog as his source with a claim that Jesus has returned as an adorable little guy with too much rizz to be anything other than the second coming.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by hatradiowigwam »

vel0city wrote: post #43
XorNot wrote: post #18

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Consider maybe how a broad statement on people's relationships: you know, their marriages, long term partners, people they raise children with sounds. Like I said: it shouldn't be hard to figure out why.

The political party allegedly being the voice for Christian views has an extremely anti-immigrant stance, sending people to pretty extreme prisons for little evidence of doing anything wrong but being someplace with questionable paperwork. They want to eliminate school lunches. They're trying to massively downsize Medicaid. All to help wealthy people build bigger barns. Seems pretty at odds to the things Jesus taught…

I'm so happy that you put that scripture here(Matthew 25). I have an inner dialog constantly that involves a certain someone telling me that I did not feed them, shelter them, or visit them when they were sick or in prison.

We are all so worried that if we give strangers(or immigrants) our food, clothes, and shelter - there won't be any left for us! I think we are worried about nothing. If we all pooled our tiny fragments of mustard seed, nothing would be impossible...

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Post by mywittyname »

mrguyorama wrote: post #134
flir wrote: post #74

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Even worse, they spend every cent on stupid prepper bullshit like freeze dried rations! Rations will not help you or your family if civilization breaks down. Without a literal army , you are no more powerful than the ones who did nothing to prepare. All rations do is ensure that you starve to death a month later than expected. Even better, those of you that collected guns and ammo as a hobby are about as prepared as…

I'll throw in my $0.02 on this topic. I have a basement full of shelf stable foods, a reasonably large battery backup system plus some solar panels, and a couple of guns.

I don't see civilization collapsing overnight. I see it playing out as a series of scarce times that ebb and flow. I don't think the supermarket will go away, but I do think there will be times when it looks like those videos of Soviet groceries, where there's not much selection.

And I'm aware that natural disasters are increasing in frequency and cost/impact to a degree that the government won't or can't do anything about them. So I need to be able to weather the storms for a few months at a time.

As an aside, I also prepared by living in a neighborhood where people take care of each other and is close enough I can walk/bike to places.

Basically, I picture the USA collapse as turning the place into Puerto Rico, not Mad Max.

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Post by lurk2 »

jordanb wrote: post #7
k310 wrote: post #5

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Wealth is not universally maligned in the Biblical tradition. Job is afforded material rewards in this world after his tribulation.

Prosperity gospel is plainly contradicted by the Bible (see again: The Book of Job), but so is the Redditor Christianity you are espousing.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by masfuerte »

dragonwriter wrote: post #155
blendergeek wrote: post #21

This article fails to address that most true believers would not see any point to betting on the yes. If Christ returns this year, the world is done and there is no upside to having bet that he would. Temporal things (like prediction markets) will cease to be interesting when Christ returns. Given that, I highly doubt that the people betting yes actually believe that Christ will return this year.

> If Christ returns this year, the world is done If you believe in the literal statement about only 144,000 people being saved and in a pre-tribulation rapture, then “the world is done” only applies to a trivially small number of people.

I'm not a theologian, but if this were to happen I don't suppose the unsaved would be able to peacefully play the prediction markets during the tribulation. It sounds bad.

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

hatradiowigwam wrote: post #131
k310 wrote: post #5

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> Statistics and wagering aside, IMO, he'd fair poorly (like the previous visit). If I remember correctly...his first visit was prophesied to end exactly as it did. His next visit is prophesied to be a little different - to paraphrase...he is coming with an army to make war on the beast and all [humans] who follow him. Instead of a spotless robe like earlier depictions - this robe is drenched in blood, and he has a s…

But what evidence supports the theory of heaven and hell?

I mean, according to the Hindus and Buddhists, we’ll be reincarnated rather than going to heaven/hell.

We could read the Bible, or the Qur’ān, or the Vēdas, or the Buddhist scriptures, or any other religious text… but how would we know whether any of them holds truth?

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Post by mrguyorama »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #63

We dont know the day or hour. Yet, the end won't come until the Gospel has reached all nations. Likely, people groups. https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-14.htm https://joshuaproject.net/ Jesus also warns that His message, the Gospel (GetHisWord.com), will be universally hated across the world by those who dont believe. The Devil will inspire people to censor it to prevent both people's sins being forgiven and godliness…

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