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The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by tempestn »

delichon wrote: post #25

The resolution source for this market will be a consensus of credible sources. I'm too skeptical to believe that a source is credible if that source claims any resurrection, let alone of a messiah. If a man who looks just like Jesus in the images showed up and performed all of the same miracles, I still wouldn't believe it. I wouldn't believe it if the Pope declared it true, or something claiming to be God announced…

This is actually interesting. What would make you believe it? Is there any evidence at all?

I agree that almost anything I can think of would be more likely some kind of trick. Or in the most extreme examples I'd have to assume there's a good chance I was experiencing some kind of psychosis. So I'm not sure I could actually be convinced either. I suppose if I personally witnessed clearly impossible miracles being performed and multiple people I know and trust corroborated what I was seeing, that might do it.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

arp242 wrote: post #48
jordanb wrote: post #7

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With modern technology you can probably liquefy a camel sufficiently that you force it through the needle. Jesus ain't said nothing 'bout no hydrochloric acid and pneumatic presses.

Probably easier to just make a really big needle

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by recursivedoubts »

HexDecOctBin wrote: post #67
recursivedoubts wrote: post #33

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religion (that is, an objective morality) has always been the only thing the masses have when confronted with the great pagan principle: "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"

So pagans don't have a religion or morality? That is interesting to hear, as a Hindu. The more things change, the more they remain the same!

I don't know anything about hinduism, but I assume there is a base morality that the strong may not take advantage of the weak, in contrast with the athenian dictum I quoted.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by hatradiowigwam »

jordanb wrote: post #7
k310 wrote: post #5

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The message IS clear...but I don't see the same message as you. Solomon was /beyond/ rich. So was David. So were countless people that are destined for heaven(as in, Jesus describes them being in heaven in the new testament).

Those people all did some things we can see and talk about - and possibly many things we did not see, do not know, and can not talk about. At the very least, those people we know are in/destined for heaven: followed God, feared God, obeyed God.

I don't believe their being or not being rich is part of the calculus for "getting into heaven" as you said. Being rich may make you less likely to do those 3 things though, in which case you would correlate richness with not getting into heaven.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by dragonwriter »

blendergeek wrote: post #21

This article fails to address that most true believers would not see any point to betting on the yes. If Christ returns this year, the world is done and there is no upside to having bet that he would. Temporal things (like prediction markets) will cease to be interesting when Christ returns. Given that, I highly doubt that the people betting yes actually believe that Christ will return this year.

> If Christ returns this year, the world is done

If you believe in the literal statement about only 144,000 people being saved and in a pre-tribulation rapture, then “the world is done” only applies to a trivially small number of people.

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XorNot wrote: post #18
codr7 wrote: post #13

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Insulting to whom, and why? It's objectively true in general from what I can see.

Consider maybe how a broad statement on people's relationships: you know, their marriages, long term partners, people they raise children with sounds. Like I said: it shouldn't be hard to figure out why.

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Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by recursivedoubts »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #84
recursivedoubts wrote: post #38

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That is not true: with God all things are possible.

Could God make a man so rich that even he wouldn't let him into heaven?

"I don’t know. When my bird was looking at my computer monitor I thought, ‘That bird has no idea what he’s looking at.’ And yet what does the bird do? Does he panic? No, he can’t really panic, he just does the best he can. Is he able to live in a world where he’s so ignorant? Well, he doesn’t really have a choice. The bird is okay even though he doesn’t understand the world. You’re that bird looking at the monitor, and you’re thinking to yourself, ‘I can figure this out.’ Maybe you have some bird ideas. Maybe that’s the best you can do.”

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by downrightmike »

blendergeek wrote: post #21

This article fails to address that most true believers would not see any point to betting on the yes. If Christ returns this year, the world is done and there is no upside to having bet that he would. Temporal things (like prediction markets) will cease to be interesting when Christ returns. Given that, I highly doubt that the people betting yes actually believe that Christ will return this year.

True, but most Christianity, esp in the USA is truly anti-Christ

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

ivape wrote: post #70
foxygen wrote: post #68

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What is so special about reality?

Purpose. That there was a purpose for all of this. If we believe there was no purpose for all of this, then what a hopeless thing. I just look at the erasure of Gaza and have become more and more religious, because my god what a hopeless end if this all isn’t saved at the very end. I feel that way about many of today’s ills. Purpose and hope, even if the answer is utterly magical.

Why should there be a purpose?

It’s certainly possible that there is a purpose, but I think it’s more likely that we simply happened to evolve the way we did.

In a vacuum, wars are meaningless. It’s simply humans fighting other humans (and the ones on the front lines might not even want to be there).

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Post by em-bee »

ivape wrote: post #125
texuf wrote: post #105

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Do you think it's weird that ethnic groups separated by thousands of years of evolution came up with completely different gods and forms of worship? If there was an omniscient being don't you think it would make itself known in a little more universal fashion? And isn't it strange that the institutions built around our current iteration of God are soft power structures that wield huge amounts of influence both financ…

I don’t think anything is weird anymore. The ultimate reality of free will is that you will always have the option to do right and wrong. If you don’t have faith, this privilege will be difficult. The human left to their own devices will always have a shifting sense of morality (turning a ship by 1 degree at a time). Faith was a gift to help. In terms of Christ, let me put it this way. Imagine your high school, and o…

free will is one big reason why god would not reveal himself in a universal fashion. free will includes the freedom to reject god. if god were to reveal himself openly then the freedom to reject him would not exist. we would not have a choice but to believe.
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