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The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by em-bee »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #63

We dont know the day or hour. Yet, the end won't come until the Gospel has reached all nations. Likely, people groups. https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-14.htm https://joshuaproject.net/ Jesus also warns that His message, the Gospel (GetHisWord.com), will be universally hated across the world by those who dont believe. The Devil will inspire people to censor it to prevent both people's sins being forgiven and godliness…

interesting. what's the source for there being a world government with one currency?

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Post by blooalien »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #63

We dont know the day or hour. Yet, the end won't come until the Gospel has reached all nations. Likely, people groups. https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-14.htm https://joshuaproject.net/ Jesus also warns that His message, the Gospel (GetHisWord.com), will be universally hated across the world by those who dont believe. The Devil will inspire people to censor it to prevent both people's sins being forgiven and godliness…

> As for signs of the end, a number must happen. Many already happened or are happening. That should worry non-believers while friends of Christ are encouraged.

I'm not sure why it should or would worry "non-believers" since by definition they don't believe, therefore ... what would they even have to worry about?

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Post by Izkata »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #103
flir wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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And when there were no mass deaths they claimed it was because everyone got a fake shoot instead with water. Which makes no sense at all. There is an evil conspiracy to kill everyone with a vaccine but then the conspiracists (guess doctors?) just give everyone a fake dose instead.

Other way around, the saline shots were supposedly given to important people so they could pretend to get the vaccination without having to actually do it.

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by ivape »

texuf wrote: post #105
ivape wrote: post #47

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Keep in mind true believers often learn to live with a massive cognitive dissonance This is quite true. Taking away just the moral teachings is not true belief. Revelations is serious business stuff, the apostles watched Christ ascend from Mount Olive, it’s extremely trippy things. True believers are literally believing in wild shit. In fact, if you are true believer, you almost need to keep it hidden because it’s go…

Do you think it's weird that ethnic groups separated by thousands of years of evolution came up with completely different gods and forms of worship? If there was an omniscient being don't you think it would make itself known in a little more universal fashion? And isn't it strange that the institutions built around our current iteration of God are soft power structures that wield huge amounts of influence both financ…

I don’t think anything is weird anymore. The ultimate reality of free will is that you will always have the option to do right and wrong. If you don’t have faith, this privilege will be difficult. The human left to their own devices will always have a shifting sense of morality (turning a ship by 1 degree at a time).

Faith was a gift to help.

In terms of Christ, let me put it this way. Imagine your high school, and one day the President of the US visits. You may not directly see him, but the whole school would know about it, even if he was just there for 5 minutes. It’s a matter of faith, and it’s the little bit you need to help with the gift of free will.

The very first story (well second story) in the main monotheistic books was the Eden Story. That story is all about how vulnerable we are with the choice of free will. Empirically, we have seen the failure of it over and over throughout human history (systemically you can easily see it). So, yes, I fully believe in the fallen nature of man, not because we are evil, but because what a gift and responsibility free will actually is.

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Post by bitbang »

jordanb wrote: post #7
k310 wrote: post #5

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That’s not what that means at all, your inserting modern values into the parable. In the culture of that time, the rich were viewed with high regard. The understanding was that if you were rich, then clearly you were in a favorable relationship to God because he was blessing you with wealth. With that understanding, the sentence that directly follows the parable makes a lot more sense: “When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished, saying, ‘Who then can be saved?’” A modern telling of the parable would replace the rich man with a monk who’s taken a vow of poverty to run an orphanage in a God-forsaken third world country. The parable was intended to portray an absurdly impossible standard to entry; the whole point being that human merit, status, or morality, regardless of however the cultural context may define that, does not afford one any distinctive advantage before God.

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Post by tempestn »

DebtDeflation wrote: post #100
blendergeek wrote: post #21

This article fails to address that most true believers would not see any point to betting on the yes. If Christ returns this year, the world is done and there is no upside to having bet that he would. Temporal things (like prediction markets) will cease to be interesting when Christ returns. Given that, I highly doubt that the people betting yes actually believe that Christ will return this year.

Wouldn't the inverse be true also? Why would non-believers bet yes? If they lose (which they see as the near certain case) they're out the money, if they win the money doesn't really offset eternal damnation. Seems like betting no is the only smart play regardless of personal beliefs.

Except for the actual logical reason presented in the post.

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Post by victorbjorklund »

Izkata wrote: post #124
victorbjorklund wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And when there were no mass deaths they claimed it was because everyone got a fake shoot instead with water. Which makes no sense at all. There is an evil conspiracy to kill everyone with a vaccine but then the conspiracists (guess doctors?) just give everyone a fake dose instead.

Other way around, the saline shots were supposedly given to important people so they could pretend to get the vaccination without having to actually do it.

Yea, that was the line at first. But when you asked them 1-2 years after the shots where all the dead vaccinated people are they often say it didnt happen because most didnt get the real vaccine (of course different anti-vaxxers are going to have different explantions. This is just some of them)

Re: The Polymarket users betting on when Jesus will return

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Post by Izkata »

reverendsteveii wrote: post #108
victorbjorklund wrote: post #103

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And when there were no mass deaths they claimed it was because everyone got a fake shoot instead with water. Which makes no sense at all. There is an evil conspiracy to kill everyone with a vaccine but then the conspiracists (guess doctors?) just give everyone a fake dose instead.

Hey now, that's not fair. They claimed the shot was fake so mass deaths weren't happening, and that the mass deaths happened but were covered up, and that the shot was engineered to delay the mass deaths in order to aid said coverup, and also several other things. It was the reality of the week club, whatever reality resonates with you, that's the actual truth and aren't you just the cleverest chap for picking up on…

They always said that it would be most visible 3-5 years after vaccination due to cumulative damage. I just did a quick search and am only finding numbers through 2023, the 2-year mark.
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