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Gurus of 90s Web Design: Zeldman, Siegel, Nielsen

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Re: Gurus of 90s Web Design: Zeldman, Siegel, Nielsen

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This article put Nielsen in the corner of "technically correct", but the influence he had on me at least was a strong focus on "empirically correct". i.e. doing actual tests (with humans) on what kind of things work to convey information. He did this to the detriment of "looking good", which is why his stuff ended up looking "hopelessly outdated", but I think he was on the right side of the fight.

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Re: Gurus of 90s Web Design: Zeldman, Siegel, Nielsen

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Fully agree. And we all know beautiful but totally broken UIs and UX, and "ugly" but extremely functional UIs and UXs, that actually make them beautiful

And UIs that are neither beautiful nor function (looking at you Salesforce, Oracle, SAP, and many other "Enterprise" applications). If any of these were functional, most users wouldn't care about the visual appeal. NN were correct, but apparently their message didn't reach that particular sphere of web application developers.

If an 'Enterprise' applications website were functional people would be able to navigate to assistance when using the app. Therefore costing money in competent support techs or improving the product itself, neither of which are as easy as just being anti-competitive and monopolistic

Re: Gurus of 90s Web Design: Zeldman, Siegel, Nielsen

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Great books. One of the authors looks like now is a climate denier, so I wonder myself about the existance of technical approach detached from the scientific one

Which one is that? Let me guess: the one who's into blockchain now?

Zeldman is dead*, and Nielsen is still running NNG. I don't think he's interested in getting into politics. Enough people hate on him, just for being the skunk at the graphic design picnic.

*[EDIT] I’m wrong.

Glad to be wrong.

'E's not dead. 'E's pining.

Re: Gurus of 90s Web Design: Zeldman, Siegel, Nielsen

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> Warning: In some regions, “View Source” may be illegal. Please use it at your own discretion. Where is "View Souce" illegal?

He’s probably saying it with a bit of a wink and referring to this https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/02/journalist-wo...

Let's have a chuckle…

https://thedailywtf.com/articles/website-hacker

Re: Gurus of 90s Web Design: Zeldman, Siegel, Nielsen

#38

This article put Nielsen in the corner of "technically correct", but the influence he had on me at least was a strong focus on "empirically correct". i.e. doing actual tests (with humans) on what kind of things work to convey information. He did this to the detriment of "looking good", which is why his stuff ended up looking "hopelessly outdated", but I think he was on the right side of the fight.

When I imagine what he would think of the current internet it’s really mind-boggling.

Re: Gurus of 90s Web Design: Zeldman, Siegel, Nielsen

#39

This article put Nielsen in the corner of "technically correct", but the influence he had on me at least was a strong focus on "empirically correct". i.e. doing actual tests (with humans) on what kind of things work to convey information. He did this to the detriment of "looking good", which is why his stuff ended up looking "hopelessly outdated", but I think he was on the right side of the fight.

> i.e. doing actual tests (with humans) on what kind of things work to convey information.

E.g., "Why You Only Need to Test with 5 Users":

* https://www.nngroup.com/articles/why-you-only-need-to-test-w...

Re: Gurus of 90s Web Design: Zeldman, Siegel, Nielsen

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Great books. One of the authors looks like now is a climate denier, so I wonder myself about the existance of technical approach detached from the scientific one

Which one is that? Let me guess: the one who's into blockchain now?

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