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US Trade Court finds Trump tariffs illegal

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#121
I'm not a lawyer or even close to it, but why wouldn't the trump admin use the tariff act of 1930? quote:

"Whenever the President shall find as a fact that any foreign country places any burden or disadvantage upon the commerce of the United States by any of the unequal impositions or discriminations aforesaid, he shall, when he finds that the public interest will be served thereby, by proclamation specify and declare such new or additional rate or rates of duty as he shall determine will offset such burden or disadvantage, not to exceed 50 per centum ad valorem or its equivalent, on any products of, or on articles imported in a vessel of, such foreign country"

it does cap it at 50%, but I mean it seems like a much easier way to justify the tariff. is there something else about it that isn't as practical (other than being almost 100 years old)

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#123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A plurality of Americans voted for this government, for better or worse. The courts are one of the primary avenues for the minority to express their will, but they move slowly, although slightly faster than congress.

They voted for an R. To be fair it is hard to argue that they voted for this government when Trump maintained he had nothing to do with these plans outlined in Project 2025 all through the campaign and his approval rating has plummeted as people understand the scope of what has happened.

To be fair, it's hard to argue that they voted for anything but this government, given that everything in Project 2025 is part of the Trumpist and right-wing agenda, and given the numerous links between Project 2025 and Trump's administration, and given his known history of dishonesty.

I mean, we have two options here - one is that voters memory-holed the last eight years and had never even heard of Donald Trump until like a year ago and believed he was an honest an sincere man of character... or they voted for exactly the thing everyone said was going to happen to happen and are only disappointed because the consequences weren't what they expected. They didn't think the leopards would actually eat their faces.

And now they're pretending like they're shocked that Trump would do such terrible things, just like they were shocked that Trump would have anything to do with January 6th... after the consequences of that weren't what they expected, either.

Re: US Trade Court finds Trump tariffs illegal

#124

I'm not a lawyer or even close to it, but why wouldn't the trump admin use the tariff act of 1930? quote: "Whenever the President shall find as a fact that any foreign country places any burden or disadvantage upon the commerce of the United States by any of the unequal impositions or discriminations aforesaid, he shall, when he finds that the public interest will be served thereby, by proclamation specify and declar…

That's probably coming next.

Re: US Trade Court finds Trump tariffs illegal

#125

I'm not a lawyer or even close to it, but why wouldn't the trump admin use the tariff act of 1930? quote: "Whenever the President shall find as a fact that any foreign country places any burden or disadvantage upon the commerce of the United States by any of the unequal impositions or discriminations aforesaid, he shall, when he finds that the public interest will be served thereby, by proclamation specify and declar…

it does cap it at 50%

Pretty sure you're answering your own question.

Re: US Trade Court finds Trump tariffs illegal

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I'm a little worried about this. This president may take out this setback on innocent people. I don't think it's out of the question that he may start a war.

In the US the president doesn't have the authority to start a war. Congress has the exclusive power to declare wars per the constitution.) (Obviously, in practice that's about as relevant congress having the sole authority over taxes, including tariffs.)

The US hasn't declared war since 1942. They seem to have fought a few large ones since then.

Re: US Trade Court finds Trump tariffs illegal

#127

So when do prices go back down?

No way major corps will lower prices.

Just like during covid they'll find excuses. Until a regulatory body investigates them for price fixing nothing will change. So nothing will change.

During covid, the soda companies kept raising prices. They claimed supply chain. Then, I think it was the SEC(probably wrong), stepped in and said "We're gonna investigate ya for price fixing" and suddenly soda prices went back down.

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#128

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> I also hate the concept of a "trade court". Where the fuck were you for the past 400 years?

You’re describing a court whose history traces closer to the founding of our republic than to the present day [1].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Inter...

Re: US Trade Court finds Trump tariffs illegal

#129

I'm not a lawyer or even close to it, but why wouldn't the trump admin use the tariff act of 1930? quote: "Whenever the President shall find as a fact that any foreign country places any burden or disadvantage upon the commerce of the United States by any of the unequal impositions or discriminations aforesaid, he shall, when he finds that the public interest will be served thereby, by proclamation specify and declar…

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Re: US Trade Court finds Trump tariffs illegal

#130
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Usually I think saying both-sides is pretty lazy, but has any Congress in the last few decades done anything but delegate more of their authority to someone else? One party always complains about Executive Orders and interference when the other party is President, but then never curtails the power when they get a chance.

In that regard, yes, both. However in that time they were never really faced with any president who would take the power granted anywhere near the extreme we see today. When that happened, one party recoiled in horror and the other cheered it on.
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