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xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Telegram is a haven for scammers and malware authors, who frequently use it as a command and control channel. These scammers and malware authors can now seamlessly integrate Grok into their tools. Congrats everyone.

Still better and more feature rich than WA.

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It's the next logical step after companies shoving AI into every corner of their own products regardless of whether their users want it - now they're paying other companies to shove AI things into their products regardless of whether their users want it. Genuine user interest doesn't come close to justifying their insane valuations so they have to put their thumb on the scale by shoving it everyones face and then pre…

Well, there's -ai for Google. I do take some grim satisfaction from having Google pay for inference and then ignoring it though.

If they invest in nuclear stations, they may get AI slop "too cheap to meter"

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Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

Please tell us what you believe this is telling us. You’ve left it up to interpretation and this feels more like a Reddit quality comment than one that the hackernews community deserves. In my opinion, it’s telling us that competition in the LLM space is accelerating and it’s anybody’s game right now. It’s important enough of a space that companies are willing to pay for exposure and squeeze out the competition. I’ve…

That's an interesting way of looking at it thanks for sharing. In that way it's similar to Google paying to be the default search engine in Firefox or on iOS. They _did_ have the best search engine at the time but they still paid platforms to have it embedded as a default option.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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> Telegram is the most popular messaging app in Iran and Uzbekistan [1]

> Telegram’s largest market is India, which accounts for more than 20% of its userbase. Telegram also has a large amount of users in countries with heavy censorship and surveillance, such as Iran, Russia, and Uzbekistan. [1]

> Percentage of users via region: Asia 38%, Europe 27%, Latin America 21%, MEMA 8% [1]

It sure is valuable data - if you are a three letter agency. Not sure if it's valuable business data.

[1] https://www.businessofapps.com/data/telegram-statistics/

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> "Incidentally, have you got a moment to talk about the white genocide in south africa?" Is this some sort of joke, or are you genuinely wanting to discuss what's happening here in South Africa? If it's a joke, I think it's in very poor taste at the expense of a persecuted minority. I have seen it, experienced it, and know full well how real it is, no matter how much social-media pushes it one way or the other.

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> you can relax your grip on your pearls.

Not the most polite way to discuss a genocide, or at the very least an absolutely dire situation.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Feels oh so telling that xAI has to pay Telegram and not the other way around. If these offerings were so great wouldn't we all be clamoring for it?

How is it different than Google paying Firefox?

Most users would probably use Google by default if forced to pick on install. Google is effectively paying so that their competitors like Microsoft won't sign their own deal and become the default Firefox search instead.

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Don't overestimate the size of that portion.

Don't underestimate it. https://www.arenaev.com/teslas_european_sales_keep_falling_w...

It’s fair to underestimate it when Tesla is still the dominant fully EV automaker globally and in all the markets that this article talks about.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Telegram is a haven for scammers and malware authors, who frequently use it as a command and control channel. These scammers and malware authors can now seamlessly integrate Grok into their tools. Congrats everyone.

Whatsapp and signal may even be more pearl clutchable as they have end to end encryption and in signal’s case I believe it’s audited.

It is worth noting that WhatsApp Trust and Safety team is more effective in removing and blocking large-scale scam operations compared to Telegram.

For instance, Telegram’s founder was recently arrested in France for failing to adequately remove malware, scam, and CSAM from the platform. It was only after his arrest that Telegram began to take moderation seriously, although their efforts remain woefully inadequate.

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