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How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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Re: How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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While I absolutely applaud the effort and tenacity of this individual, at the same time, I feel a substantial amount of trepidation regarding the current state of the tech / start-up industry. Virtually every hot new startup I see on blogs, it just takes a few minutes of basic penetration testing to find gaping security holes. Everything from simple XSS or CSRF to blatant leaking of sensitive user data. Obviously he…

When I was hired it was with the very clear understanding that I was to be taught a lot and I was being hired for my desire to learn. Sometimes if you can't find a qualified candidate you have to train them.

You have a great attitude. Reminds me of my start as well ~10 years ago, and now I work on a project that 700+ million people use / month. I think curiosity is the best skill a developer can have, because with it, they can learn just about anything else they need to. Congrats and good luck!

Re: How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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Have you been through Dev Bootcamp? Did you find it immensely useful? Did it help with getting hired? I ask because it has quite a large upfront cost... perfectly reasonable if it really is that great.

Disclaimer: I advise Dev Bootcamp. Here are three student reflections on Dev Bootcamp: - http://douglascalhoun.tumblr.com/post/26059106238/beautiful-... - http://newbietoruby.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/devbootcamp-ref... - http://mehulkar.tumblr.com/post/18897643140/devbootcamp-test... And here is a Quora thread with a lot of relevant responses: http://www.quora.com/Ruby-on-Rails/Should-I-quit-my-job-and-... . Please f…

I have a question:

I've tried to learn Ruby and don't think it is for me. Too hard to deal with setting up my environment and the language just does not come easily to me.

Can you recommend a program like yours that is of very high quality that focuses on Python, JavaScript (possibly with HTML/CSS) or Objective-C?

Re: How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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Awesome write up; thanks for sharing. I'm a self-taught developer too, although it took me more than 6 months to get my first job.

One technique I'd add to your list is, "Find online programming communities and take part in them." I learned an incredible amount from development-oriented mailing lists over the years, and I still do.

Re: How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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TLDR If you work your ass off you can get a job doing what you love in a relatively short amount of time. I wasn't claiming that I am an awesome programmer but I got good enough to put myself into a position where I could learn from awesome programmers, on the job, while getting paid.

ok then. I guess the party pooper comments come from a different view on what is learning to program, and that different view comes from a different experience. Many people forget that today self-learning is much easier than, say, 12 years ago; yet knowing theory on 'how stuff works' is no less important than back then. Good luck on your job.

Learning to program is learning to program is learning to program. "Programmer" isn't a protected title, it's not a title you earn, it's a description of a thing you do. Farmers farm, birdwatchers birdwatch, programmers program. There's no interpretation available in the phrase "learn to program."

Re: How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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I got some of these same bitter, angry, defensive responses when I posted my "how I became a developer" post a while back. I dunno what it is about programmers here but for some reason "programmer" is considered some sacred title you have to earn. Whatever.

Re: How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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Although I really sympathize with your frustration at the amount of crappy software being written, the alternative is the same software not existing at all; there aren't nearly enough programmers to write everything we need. In most cases, I would prefer crappy, insecure software to nothing, so I'm all in favor of newbie programmers trying their hand at filling the holes in our world. (Also, newbie programmers workin…

Oh I agree with you. I'm extremely ambivalent on the situation. Except for the abundance of "Share thoughts/messages/pictures/music with your significant other/close friends/social network/professional network/the world on our exclusive app!". We have enough of that software.

We sort of have enough (for me, zero of those is enough) but I think more is still better than less, since individual applications of that type might come up with some useful ideas that get adopted by others.

Re: How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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ok then. I guess the party pooper comments come from a different view on what is learning to program, and that different view comes from a different experience. Many people forget that today self-learning is much easier than, say, 12 years ago; yet knowing theory on 'how stuff works' is no less important than back then. Good luck on your job.

Learning to program is learning to program is learning to program. "Programmer" isn't a protected title, it's not a title you earn, it's a description of a thing you do. Farmers farm, birdwatchers birdwatch, programmers program. There's no interpretation available in the phrase "learn to program."

not sure if you realize I agree with you. programming is such a broad occupation that even among programmers themselves there is a lot of discourse often tending towards 'no true scotsman' fallacies (usually comming from low-level to higher).

Re: How to Get a Job as a Developer in Less Than Six Months

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I got some of these same bitter, angry, defensive responses when I posted my "how I became a developer" post a while back. I dunno what it is about programmers here but for some reason "programmer" is considered some sacred title you have to earn. Whatever.

I wouldn't be happy with someone who only built LEGO bridges running around calling themselves an engineer.

A lot of it seems to be ego. People want the shortest path to claiming a title.

Ignore silly titles and categorizations. Just make good art.

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