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people think all devs work FAANG like companies when there is loads of companies where devs are treated like dirt only now one FAANG company catches up with reality.
Where business people seem to never be measured in any way.
If requirements were shitty - well dev team did a bad job - not that business made up stupid decisions on stupider time lines.
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More to the point, there are people who carefully ensure that those angles are correct, and that all of the angles result in the car’s occupants arriving at their destination instead of turning into a ball of fire. It’s just that this process takes place at design time, not assembly time. Software the same way. It’s even more automated than auto factories. Assembly is 100% automated. Design is what we get paid to do,…
You're just not visionary enough to see the potential in vibe-CADing an automobile!
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The fact that they used the auto industry as an example is funny, because the Toyota way and six sigma came out of that industry. So you are telling me, your AI code passes a six sigma grade of quality control? I have a bridge to sell you. No, Bridges!
"The fact that they used the auto industry as an example is funny, because the Toyota way and six sigma came out of that industry." It's even funnier when you consider that Toyota has learned how bad of an idea lean manufacturing/6-Sig/5S can be thanks to the pandemic - they're moving away from it in some degrees, now.
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One of the reasons outsourcing for software fizzled out some compared to manufacturing is because in a factory you don't have "measuring to make sure every angle is correct" because (a) the manufacturing tools are tested and repeatable already and (b) the heavy lifting of figuring out all the angles was done ahead of time. So it was easy to mechanize and send to wherever the labor was cheapest since the value was in…
> outsourcing for software fizzled out Any data on that? I see everyone trying to outsource as much as they can. Sure, now it is moving toward AI, but every company I walk into have 10-1000s of FTEs in outsource countries. I see most fortune 1000 companies here doing some type of agile/planningexecution which is in fact more waterfall. The people here in the west are more management and client facing, the rest is 'th…
I said it before and I'll say it again: it's high time we got the taste of our own medicine. Getting people out of jobs has been the main selling point of our industry since its first days, this is what we've collectively been doing for decades. Do I want my job to be automated right in front of my eyes? Not really. Do I see some poetic justice in the whole thing? Absolutely.
Gloating about hardships was and is a great way to ensure things will get worse for workers as efficiency and automation increases. Another option would be to join forces to collectively demand more equitable distribution of the fruits of technological development. Sadly it doesn't seem to be very popular.
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It has been a factory job for decades. Not everyone gets to code the next ground breaking algorithm at some R&D department. Most programming tasks are rather repetitive, and in many countries there is hardly anything to look up to software developers, it is another blue collar job. And in many cultures if you don't go into management after about five years, usually it is seen as a failure to grow up on their career.
"usually it is seen as a failure to grow up on their career." What does that mean?
Hasn't that always been the case at Amazon?
This article features a study claiming 25% productivity gains form co-pilot. I wonder what a similar study would say about developers with and without access to internet search. In the study, it seems, as I expected, less experienced people found more value from it. My experience has been AI tools are more helpful when I don't know the domain, and then their benefit declines as I familiarize. I also looked at the stu…
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One of the reasons outsourcing for software fizzled out some compared to manufacturing is because in a factory you don't have "measuring to make sure every angle is correct" because (a) the manufacturing tools are tested and repeatable already and (b) the heavy lifting of figuring out all the angles was done ahead of time. So it was easy to mechanize and send to wherever the labor was cheapest since the value was in…
> outsourcing for software fizzled out Any data on that? I see everyone trying to outsource as much as they can. Sure, now it is moving toward AI, but every company I walk into have 10-1000s of FTEs in outsource countries. I see most fortune 1000 companies here doing some type of agile/planningexecution which is in fact more waterfall. The people here in the west are more management and client facing, the rest is 'th…
Outsourcing means laying off your FTEs and shoving the entire project over to a WITCH consulting shop.
What even are most programmers at Amazon doing? It seems like all the interesting bits (the MVP of Amazon's major products) was developed long ago. All the low-hanging fruit is gone so the task is now focused on squeezing the few remaining drops of efficiency out of the stone.
Until you join a FAANG you simply cannot imagine the complexity of the systems and how much has not been automated and how much there is to build. I've been in Amazon for close to a decade, and I constantly think "I can't believe X hasn't been automated in the 30 years that Amazon has existed and is still done on Excel". Most engineers will work on new features for at least half of the year, and I personally work on…