You all thought Mozilla wouldn't take a feature or service away.. Seriously where have you absolute fucks been the past 13 years?
-Tobin
Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot
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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot
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The page was "Last updated: 24 minutes ago". Someone at Mozilla saw this HN post and modified it (unsure if the export feature itself was changed or not). You can tell it's a rushed edit as "Your export file will include links (URLs) of your saved items. The export does not extract the text of saved links. Additionally, the export does contain tags or highlights." reads very unnatural. Via Wayback Machine, it can be…
Doesn't have to be a conspiracy. They saw a comment about a mistake in the article and made a clumsy edit in an attempt to remedy the mistake.
I didn't mean that there is a conspiracy, just that OP wasn't lying and the doc was indeed saying it won't save tags.
(Now I read it, it does sound like so. My bad.)
Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot
#503I tried saving named links in a text file, offline reading in Wallabag, full archiving with Archivebox, and fancier bookmarking/tagging with Karakeep. I found each does a bit of what I want so I now use all four. Heh
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#504Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't have to be a conspiracy. They saw a comment about a mistake in the article and made a clumsy edit in an attempt to remedy the mistake.
I didn't mean that there is a conspiracy, just that OP wasn't lying and the doc was indeed saying it won't save tags. (Now I read it, it does sound like so. My bad.)
No worries! Perhaps i shouldn't have assumed that so much investigation implied a conspiracy theory.
Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot
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Yeah this is really lame. I used it because I like Mozilla and thought Pocket's future would be relatively safe in their hands. I'm sure a lot of HN readers view any of Mozilla's operations outside of Firefox as a distraction, but I think it's a shame to lose Pocket. I really like several Mozilla services (Relay, VPN, and up to now Pocket) and this shutdown along with such a half-assed export option is a real disappo…
I'm with you. I think it's great that Mozilla is trying/tried to extend their value beyond just the browser. I found pocket immensely useful. Having the ability to have my kobo e-reader sync pocket articles to read off-line was such a useful feature. I don't understand the Mozilla hate on this board. I think it's wildly overblown.
You’re misunderstanding; much of the so called hate is rather intense disappointment many tech people have with Mozilla due to mismanagement and constant fumbles. Intense disappointment about a future we’ll never get to experience where Mozilla is well run and produces and iterates effectively on big open source projects, bolsters browser ecosystem competition and fends off browser monopoly (requires market share which they’ve failed at), etc. Don’t conflate that with hate, many of us are still their biggest proponents despite often engaging in criticism. If you stop seeing a lot of Mozilla “hate” that would probably be worse and then you’d really know that nobody cares about them at all and they’re actually a dead organization at that point.
Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot
#506I loved Pocket. I used it nearly daily. I was often in their top n% of users. I paid for it. Then one day they changed the way their rendering worked on iOS. And it destroyed my workflow. I also bought a Kobo E-Reader specifically to use Pocket with it. In short order I found an open-source alternative - Omnivore - and spent my time hacking away at my Kobo to get it to pull from there instead. https://github.com/Podg…
That's so unfortunate--I've also used Pocket for a decade+. I had the Omnivore app installed on my phone as a replacement for the other infinite feed scrolling apps.
I'm actually working on an open-source alternative at https://curi.ooo if you're interested in checking it out. It's a work in progress, but I'm building it primarily for my own use because I'm frustrated with all these services shutting down.
The Kobo integration you have is interesting too, wonder how I could support that use case...
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Mozilla is more occupied this days paying multi milionary bonus to its executives and begging users for money they waste on useless projects. Mozilla must die, so Firefox can live.
I'm curious what the governance structure of Mozilla is that keeps things this way. People have been upset for quite a while at the direction Mozilla is going in, yet there seems to be no coalition to oust the current leadership. Is this impossible for some reason?
There is no way for anyone to get Mozilla to change because the current board picks new board members.
Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot
#508I was a user for so long that I was on it before it even rebranded as Pocket. I finally gave up on it last year, mostly due to frustration with the terrible 2023 redesign of the mobile app. When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company, I figured it was just a matter of time before they had to put Pocket out to pasture. A product that's designed to strip ads from content for re…
Mozilla is more occupied this days paying multi milionary bonus to its executives and begging users for money they waste on useless projects. Mozilla must die, so Firefox can live.
> Mozilla must die, so Firefox can live.
Ugh. This sounds so horrible, but this is probably the truest statement on this entire page.
Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot
#509Wow, after Instapaper went back to indie from Pinterest[1] and Omnivore closing last year this is no longer surprising. This is also proof that read-it-later app as a category is not sustainable as a venture / company backed service. This is also a category of app that I believe could be better served by local-first native apps. As there is no reason why a server has to be requirement to enjoy the full service. Your…
I actually don't necessarily think that's true - As someone that has a bit of a background with the codebase of Omnivore I think the thing that killed that wasn't necessarily the business model (let's be real, they didn't even offer a premium tier.) I think it was the introduction of features that required an unnecessary amount of processing power. Namely, RSS feeds. Their RSS implementation parsed every new webpage…
I loved using Omnivore, and I've found so far in building https://curi.ooo that you can actually do a lot of the legwork in rendering webpages client-side (even on mobile) so that the server-side processing is just used to simplify the HTML. Obviously I'm nowhere near Omnivore's scale but so far costs have been extremely manageable.
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Safari is the only reason we don't rename (yet) Web as ChromeOS development platform. Thanks everyone, especially all those Electron crap apps.
The real death knell is that Microsoft decided not to go with Mozilla in building the relaunched version of Edge. That would have been a very fruitful relationship, but they couldn't make it work. My understanding is - albeit its second hand - that they really didn't want to simply jump to Chromium, but Firefox proved far more complicated to do what they wanted to do. Ultimately, Microsoft Edge went from a pretty goo…
> Microsoft Edge went from a pretty good browser to loaded with of things I dislike
Yep. It was great. Now it's a kitchen sink with everything thrown into it and it's disgusting.