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Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by throwaway314155 »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #309
pouulet wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tags are exported : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/exporting-your-pocket-l... What is contained in the export file? Your export file will include links (URLs) of your saved items. The export does not extract the text of saved links. Additionally, the export does contain tags or highlights.

The page was "Last updated: 24 minutes ago". Someone at Mozilla saw this HN post and modified it (unsure if the export feature itself was changed or not). You can tell it's a rushed edit as "Your export file will include links (URLs) of your saved items. The export does not extract the text of saved links. Additionally, the export does contain tags or highlights." reads very unnatural. Via Wayback Machine, it can be…

Doesn't have to be a conspiracy. They saw a comment about a mistake in the article and made a clumsy edit in an attempt to remedy the mistake.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by randomor »

randomor wrote: post #226

Wow, after Instapaper went back to indie from Pinterest[1] and Omnivore closing last year this is no longer surprising. This is also proof that read-it-later app as a category is not sustainable as a venture / company backed service. This is also a category of app that I believe could be better served by local-first native apps. As there is no reason why a server has to be requirement to enjoy the full service. Your…

Just added a Pocket Importer for those who are interested in giving DoubleMemory a try: https://doublememory.com/posts/tools/

You can also import from ReadWise, Omnivore or any other format via our custom GPT importer...

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by stevenhuang »

segphault wrote: post #71

I was a user for so long that I was on it before it even rebranded as Pocket. I finally gave up on it last year, mostly due to frustration with the terrible 2023 redesign of the mobile app. When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company, I figured it was just a matter of time before they had to put Pocket out to pasture. A product that's designed to strip ads from content for re…

Not to mention general UI jank that is present for years.

Start Firefox and right click anywhere to open the context menu. If it's the first time that specific menu is opened, you can a flash of nothing and then see a few frames of the css being inflated.

Contrast that to Chrome and you don't get any sort of jank.

Small things like this add up to an overall feel of unpolish.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by randomor »

al_borland wrote: post #459
basisword wrote: post #402

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>> Apple also has a read later service built into Safari. It’s not the most feature rich, but it has existed for several years now. I was a big Instapaper user until they added Reading List to Safari. It's just enough features, it's built into all my devices, and it's the thing that keeps me using Safari too (Chrome's reading list implementation sucks).

The thing I don’t like about Apple’s implementation is the All list doesn’t show read/unread status. There is a list for unread, but not for read. I just pulled mine up to go through it and if I had to guess I have about 5 read out of probably 250. Which 5 those are, no idea. I also find it very easy to accidentally click on an item, which marks it as read without any visual indication. I just have to know this, and…

It's actually all saved in ~/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist as bookmarks. You can drop that into https://chatgpt.com/g/g-6811b049cbdc8191b91c6ed291a88e4f-dou... which is a custom GPT I created for DoubleMemory. And see if it works. I do have plans to automate this in the future, right now still trying to collect feature requests confirmation tho.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by nonillion »

alwillis wrote: post #432
nine_k wrote: post #249

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> available in every other browser Isn't it because almost every "other browser" reuses the Chromium engine? Or is Firefox trailing even mobile Safari here?

> Or is Firefox trailing even mobile Safari here? Short answer: yes. Here are some web platform features Chrome and Safari (desktop and mobile) are shipping but not Firefox: * Container Style queries: https://web-platform-dx.github.io/web-features-explorer/feat... * @scope: https://web-platform-dx.github.io/web-features-explorer/feat... * Picture in Picture: https://web-platform-dx.github.io/web-features-explorer/fea…

I'm not a developer, so maybe I misunderstand what PiP is strictly speaking. But, I thought I had been using PiP for a couple of years now in Firefox. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/about-picture-picture-f...

Is this not PiP?

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by _carbyau_ »

tomcam wrote: post #471
whyenot wrote: post #315

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Their reckoning day is coming when Google stops paying them $500m+ a year to be the default search engine. That payment alone account for 80% of Mozilla's budget, and has made them fat, wasteful, and directionless. It's really upsetting to me personally, I gave a lot (time, code, and money) to Mozilla in the early days when they were really struggling.

That makes me very angry. I am fat, wasteful, and directionless but Google pays me nothing.

So in market terms, you are infinitely more efficient!

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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paradox460 wrote: post #472
grues-dinner wrote: post #458

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What's bonkers to me is that people are alway complaining about ads and they're not putting "delete web ads from your life" front and center of their value proposition. Go to firefox.com and look at the the "why Firefox" copy. It's could be about basically any modern browser. It's like selling a car with "it has wheels!". I guess that might threaten their tie-up with the world's biggest adtech company which is why th…

I bought a car a couple years ago. It advertised am/fm radio in the feature sheet

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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by randomor »

_def wrote: post #18

> Your export file will include links (URLs) of your saved items. The export does not extract the text of saved links. Additionally, the export does not contain tags or highlights. boo! without the tags, the links will be mostly useless for me. Every now and then I thought aboyt switching to some self-hosted solution. Should've done it sooner... and I will never trust Mozilla with any service again.

I just did an export while trying to create an importer to my app DoubleMemory. Pocket actually does export tags. It’s probably a miscommunication.

Here is what the raw csv look like if you check my tool example: https://doublememory.com/posts/tools/pocket/

The text that’s separated by pipe are the tags.

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