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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by platevoltage »

chrisandchris wrote: post #62
platevoltage wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are a Republican, you DID sign up for this. None of this has been kept secret.

Sometimes you sign up for things, because the advertisment did look great. But then, at one point, you want to cancel that subscription.

My point is, this was the advertisement. If you thought it looked great, you signed up for it. And if you didn't vote for this, but you voted for something ridiculous like banning around dozen people from playing sports, well, I have the same amount of sympathy for you too.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

anigbrowl wrote: post #47
dekhn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The probability of impeachment succeeding at this time is effectively zero.

Anything difficult is effectively impossible until you decide to begin working on it.

Even if it were possible for Dems to get control of the house and impeach the prez, there is no way that Senate will convict unless the GOP Senate goes back to becoming the GOP instead of the MAGA-GOP, which seems extremely unlikely.

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Post by OutOfHere »

hangonhn wrote: post #84
sillyfluke wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waterloo, McGill, and U of Toronto admissions offices should be spending the entire day tomorrow calling the full international Harvard roster ASAP.

Honestly as an American, I would seriously consider how my daughter can go to these top Canadian or EU schools.

Consider ETH Zurich too, although if truth be told, K12+4+2 education is 100% obsoleted now by AI; only PhD is still very relevant.

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Post by bongoman42 »

scoofy wrote: post #8

If you are a Republican and didn’t sign up for this, can you please write your representatives about impeachment? This is getting ridiculous. We’d be much better off with a president Vance.

Most Republicans around me are extremely happy with this.

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Post by philistine »

neilv wrote: post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

You're overthinking this. The university is vocal about keeping its independence. That's enough to warrant retaliation from this president.

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Post by miffel »

periodjet wrote: post #88

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Well if it was a decision made by Harvard after serious deliberation and years of prep one could try to argue in good faith about the possible positive effects. Since this seems to be retaliation by the current admin due to Harvard's resistance to turning over vast amounts of records on intl. students... I think people are being less optimistic. I am curious, what do you think is beneficial about this? Please feel free to offer your perspective as well.

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Post by archagon »

neilv wrote: post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

The Project 2025 people and the Yarvinists agree that elite universities like Harvard are spreading the “woke mind virus” and must be destroyed. They consider their movements a revolution, not an iteration on the status quo.

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Post by vaidhy »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #66

I get flak for hating Republican voters with the general feeling of most people being that voters are not responsible for the officials THEY elected to represent them. I still haven't found a valid argument for why a voter isn't held responsible for the actions of representatives. Especially if the actions would be likely to occur.

Voters face the consequence for their voting. So, in that meaning, they are responsible for the actions of the representatives.
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