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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by mort96 »

Vinnl wrote: post #314
mort96 wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of a bit "too little too late" when they're still open-sourcing it but by bit in 2025 after promising to open-source it during the acquisition in 2017. I'm not very impressed.

It wasn't started in 2025, it's a process that's been going on for years. (Presumably, but I don't actually have more information here, the pre-acquisition codebase couldn't easily be open sourced without rewriting for legal reasons, e.g. copyright residing with someone else.)

Nothing about the communication at the time indicated that publishing the source code would happen gradually over a decade. For all intents and purposes, what was promised was that it would be open source within some reasonably short time frame.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by godelski »

NegativeK wrote: post #163
godelski wrote: post #143

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This is what confused me coming into this thread too! I was wondering what it'd be like consider how widely unpopular pocket is around here. Enough that anytime Firefox is brought up people point to pocket. No one defending it at those times so at just hear negatives. I'm sure there are plenty of different users but it's interesting to see what opinions dominate a thread at a given time. I think people just like comp…

There are some from the Pocket disliking group that have made comments here. I bet most don't care that much. The vast majority of people using Firefox don't care at all. And then the people are significantly affected, the Pocket users, are going to be the loudest in this thread.

I recognize these are different groups and HN isn't a homogeneous entity.

My explicit point was about perception bias.

My point was about how this bias is often undermining ourselves. In this case, helping Google chrome.

It just seems worth pointing out. That the comment sections in Internet forums seem to preference comments that compilation.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by readthenotes1 »

donnachangstein wrote: post #316

Another feature no one asked for, meeting its technological grave. For those few users of Pocket this function could have been easily handled as an extension. If Mozilla spent the engineering hours wasted on this toward fixing the ever growing mountain of existing bugs they might have more than 1% market share.

Firefox has the "killer app" for modern browsers--ublock origin.

I am dismayed by how much money Mozilla spends on things other than the browser, though.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by nickthegreek »

fkfyshroglk wrote: post #208
thayne wrote: post #180

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Safari only exist on Apple devices, and generally had even less features than Firefox.

Sure, but fewer (sic) features is mostly a better state of affairs, and apple devices are mostly what matter if you're catering to rich westerners (as most products on this forum try to do). To me, chromium only matters so much as I am forced to care by being employed. It offers very little to me outside of being necessary to enable the "blur" background on my video chats and offers a very shitty corporate UX.

you can blur the background now at OS level on macOS from the menu bar.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by TiredOfLife »

tristanho wrote: post #186
TiredOfLife wrote: post #179

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Thanks. Will try. Currently Pocket seems to be overloaded, but hopefully it recovers in the 30 trial days. While your app seems nice on first glance the 10$ a month is not a small amount for non americans. 10$ a year I could stomach.

Cool! The import should auto-retry, but in case something gets snagged there you can also always do `cmd+k -> pocket` to retrigger a full import. Totally hear you on price.. Reader is built for people who spend a lot of time reading and can justify it (and the sub also comes with access to our Readwise product too). We also have a 50% off discount for students as well folks in countries with depressed currencies (eg…

I can't even connect to Pocket.

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Post by criddell »

no_wizard wrote: post #295
pjmlp wrote: post #248

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Safari is the only reason we don't rename (yet) Web as ChromeOS development platform. Thanks everyone, especially all those Electron crap apps.

The real death knell is that Microsoft decided not to go with Mozilla in building the relaunched version of Edge. That would have been a very fruitful relationship, but they couldn't make it work. My understanding is - albeit its second hand - that they really didn't want to simply jump to Chromium, but Firefox proved far more complicated to do what they wanted to do. Ultimately, Microsoft Edge went from a pretty goo…

Microsoft was (and is) interested in Electron. They used it for lots of stuff like MS Teams (which is now using their WebView2 control), VSCode, Outlook, and their Graph toolkit.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by brodo »

segphault wrote: post #71

I was a user for so long that I was on it before it even rebranded as Pocket. I finally gave up on it last year, mostly due to frustration with the terrible 2023 redesign of the mobile app. When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company, I figured it was just a matter of time before they had to put Pocket out to pasture. A product that's designed to strip ads from content for re…

> I'm sure they will instead focus on AI integration

And blockchain integration after that.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by wodenokoto »

segphault wrote: post #71

I was a user for so long that I was on it before it even rebranded as Pocket. I finally gave up on it last year, mostly due to frustration with the terrible 2023 redesign of the mobile app. When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company, I figured it was just a matter of time before they had to put Pocket out to pasture. A product that's designed to strip ads from content for re…

> When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company

While strictly speaking it is not “always”, Mozilla has, in the colloquial sense, always been an internet advertising company. But they have mostly outsourced the advertising to Google.

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