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Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by djhworld »

I would say I was sad to see it go, but I moved to karakeep (formerly known as Hoarder) a few months ago and it's been a perfect replacement. Most importantly, you can self-host it - which is great.

One thing that stood out to me in the article was this this to justify the shutdown

> But the way people use the web has evolved, so we’re channeling our resources into projects that better match their browsing habits and online needs.

I'd be really interested to hear what exactly they mean by this, are people visiting fewer websites? Walled gardens like facebook etc make it useless for bookmarking so I can see how pocket would be a bad fit there

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by mvdtnz »

nine_k wrote: post #249
segphault wrote: post #71

I was a user for so long that I was on it before it even rebranded as Pocket. I finally gave up on it last year, mostly due to frustration with the terrible 2023 redesign of the mobile app. When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company, I figured it was just a matter of time before they had to put Pocket out to pasture. A product that's designed to strip ads from content for re…

> available in every other browser Isn't it because almost every "other browser" reuses the Chromium engine? Or is Firefox trailing even mobile Safari here?

How does that change the basic facts from the end users' perspective?

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by jamienicol »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #49
chimeracoder wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and I will never trust Mozilla with any service again. Who will you trust? Google? Apple? Microsoft? It's not like any of the other behemoths have a better track record when it comes to long-term maintenance and availability of hosted consumer products. If anything, Mozilla actually has the best track record out of them all when it comes to long-term offerings.

His point is about data portability, not service uptime. This export feature is outright bad, worse than the industry standard by a mile. Why wouldn't it include something as basic as tags? It just forces users to write their own scripts, wasting time for everyone involved.

It does include tags

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by podgietaru »

marklar423 wrote: post #250
podgietaru wrote: post #211

I loved Pocket. I used it nearly daily. I was often in their top n% of users. I paid for it. Then one day they changed the way their rendering worked on iOS. And it destroyed my workflow. I also bought a Kobo E-Reader specifically to use Pocket with it. In short order I found an open-source alternative - Omnivore - and spent my time hacking away at my Kobo to get it to pull from there instead. https://github.com/Podg…

I'm with you, I use Pocket all the time on my Kobo as well - I need to cobble together some self-hosted alternative. Did you find another alternative besides Omnivore?

I still use the self-hosted version of Omnivore - I had built quite a lot around it so when that shut down I just decided to transfer over.

It was hard enough going from Pocket to something else, I didn't want to do that again.

I actually have a Supernote now, and side-loaded the Omnivore App onto it - so I use my Kobo less (though still somewhat at night due to the backlight.)

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by maigret »

mvdtnz wrote: post #252
nine_k wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> available in every other browser Isn't it because almost every "other browser" reuses the Chromium engine? Or is Firefox trailing even mobile Safari here?

How does that change the basic facts from the end users' perspective?

For users it’s called “putting all your eggs in one basket”

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by lxgr »

thayne wrote: post #180
zymhan wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari exists, and is quite popular.

Safari only exist on Apple devices, and generally had even less features than Firefox.

Apple devices make up over half of all visitors in some markets/segments.

Update: Downvoted for facts, stay classy, HN!

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by inanutshellus »

podgietaru wrote: post #211

I loved Pocket. I used it nearly daily. I was often in their top n% of users. I paid for it. Then one day they changed the way their rendering worked on iOS. And it destroyed my workflow. I also bought a Kobo E-Reader specifically to use Pocket with it. In short order I found an open-source alternative - Omnivore - and spent my time hacking away at my Kobo to get it to pull from there instead. https://github.com/Podg…

Reading pro-Pocket comments is so surreal.

I never really paid any attention to Pocket and never used it but 100% of the comments I ever saw were about how it was some invasion of privacy tool that was evidence of corruption in Mozilla selling your data to 3rd parties or something.

Now it's dead and ... everyone here is mourning its passing. Guess I was a successful mark for anti-Mozilla FUD tactics.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by podgietaru »

While the Kobo app is still available an alternative might be:

Self-Host Omnivore: https://github.com/omnivore-app/omnivore/blob/main/self-host...

Use this proxy to point to the Self-Hosted instance to pull from Omnivore Instead. https://github.com/Podginator/KoboOmnivoreConverter

This is what I've been doing for a year or so now. I hope they don't remove the Kobo integration code from my Kobo.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by podgietaru »

inanutshellus wrote: post #258
podgietaru wrote: post #211

I loved Pocket. I used it nearly daily. I was often in their top n% of users. I paid for it. Then one day they changed the way their rendering worked on iOS. And it destroyed my workflow. I also bought a Kobo E-Reader specifically to use Pocket with it. In short order I found an open-source alternative - Omnivore - and spent my time hacking away at my Kobo to get it to pull from there instead. https://github.com/Podg…

Reading pro-Pocket comments is so surreal. I never really paid any attention to Pocket and never used it but 100% of the comments I ever saw were about how it was some invasion of privacy tool that was evidence of corruption in Mozilla selling your data to 3rd parties or something. Now it's dead and ... everyone here is mourning its passing. Guess I was a successful mark for anti-Mozilla FUD tactics.

I used Pocket since it was called Read-it-Later back in 2011/2010. It was one of the first things I'd install onto every device I owned.

I used it until their dreadful redesign in 2023.

I got a _lot_ of use out of Pocket.

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